Am 12/08/2014 08:30 PM, schrieb jan i:
On 8 December 2014 at 20:15, jan i<j...@apache.org> wrote:
On 8 December 2014 at 19:50, Rory O'Farrell<ofarr...@iol.ie> wrote:
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 19:37:41 +0100
Marcus<marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote:
Am 12/08/2014 06:31 PM, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 09:19:17 -0800
Kay Schenk<kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:
And, I didn't review the infra ticket on Cent OS carefully. Until we
make a
decision that we do not want to provide Linux-32 binaries, we need a
32-bit
Cent OS 5 buildbot. I'' create a new ticket today.
Possibly because most OO developers have 64 bit computers, we tend to
> overlook the need for 32 bit versions of OO. We should not lose sight
> of the need for such versions - it as a way of introducing people
> using older machines. Most of the older people I know (mostly 65+,
> retired) are using 32 bit machines, often handed down from their
> children.
right, but do you really mean - or have heard/read - that they get Linux
machines from their children? I think it will be still Windows - and
here 32 or 64 bit doesn't matter.
But anyway, yes we still need 32-bit binaries for Linux.
Marcus
When I am asked I guide them to 32 bit linux to help older computers work
well. If we drop 32 bit for linux, we effectively abandon that area to
LibO; we have enough of an uphill fight regaining users from the inbuilt
installation of LibO on the distros as it is. We shouldn't abandon that
area.
I dont follow the notion of "abandon that area", we have never had a 32bit
centOS buildbot or for that matter a 64bit, so we are not abandoning
anything, we are instead expanding.
I dont know if we made releases available on centOS earlier, but for sure
we did not do it with ASF buildbot.
rgds
jan i
And a addon to the general discussion, if I may bring it down to something
we can handle again.
We can wish anything (especially around christmas), but fact is:
- We have tried to change the ASF buildbots used, to generate releases (the
configure options are set differently) for as long as we have been a TLP.
- We have had a MAC buildbot for several month now, and its still not
production
- Last time (about 6month ago) when infra (in person me) rolled a centOS vm
for buildbot, the interest was less the time it cost to write a mail so in
fact it was abendoned.
- There are no (and as far as I can see have been no) jira for a 32bit
centOS.
- Currently we have no release manager, and as far as I know nobody have
asked to become a release manager.
So may I politely ask, what have changed, that we now believe this will all
go away, and we can have it all solved in a short time ?
To me the above points are months of work, until tested and stable, and
considering we havent even started, I think it is fair to ask, do we really
want to wait until this magically happens ?
Sorry for being very direct (its my danish style), but we need to get
don't worry about your style, I can understand this.
things moving instead of just dreaming...so who will take care of which of
the above points ?
To answer this also directly:
- As I haven't the techincal understanding of buildbots I cannot help here.
- And for the release manager hat on, puh, I think you need much more
time than just 2-3 hours per day - which are not in your evening hours.
So, also here a sorry from me.
Marcus
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