On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:32 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 07/12/2014 jan i wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, December 7, 2014, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 9:30 AM, jan i wrote:
>>>
>>>> Maybe its just me, but it seems all of the above is forgotten, at least
>>>> I
>>>> cannot see any mentions on this ML.
>>>>
>>>
> Indeed, and thanks for raising it! The two main discussions we had in
> Budapest concerned the Infrastructure actions (and here I already reported
> with the message Kay indicated) and the next release (and on this I didn't
> have time to report yet; good that you started this discussion).
>
>  Regarding the next release. Of course, most of us have no idea what the
>>> discussion in Budapest actually entailed with respect to this, but the
>>> latest discussion  can be found from this link --
>>>   http://markmail.org/message/aehavvvhiz6les6q
>>>
>>
> Yes, basically we agreed with that plan, but an important new addition we
> have is digital signing (to be precise, digital signing that Windows will
> accept).
>
>  My take on the above is that a goal before the next release was to have a
>>> complete buildbot infrastructure in place at Apache ...
>>>
>> ...making that a requirement for
>> a release seems to be a perfect excuse to continue talking.
>> We could on the other hand, if we pulled together, bring out a windows
>> release in a couple of weeks, with digital signing
>>
>
> I'm open to both options: re-releasing the Windows 4.1.1 binaries with
> digital signing or releasing 4.1.2 (source + binaries for all platforms)
> with digital signing, possible new languages and bugfixes.
>
> We could actually do both, if you believe it makes sense:
> - signed 4.1.1 (next Windows binaries only) by end of December
>

I don't like the above idea at all! I think this would be VERY confusing to
our user community.


> - 4.1.2 in January
>

I think a release of any kind in January is too optimistic.

My feeling is that until we get buildbots in place on Apache gear, with
testing, it's kind of premature to discuss a next release. This, of course,
means that all binaries for all languages will need to be built on Apache
buildbot. Will space be an issue?

And, we need a  new release manager.

And, I didn't review the infra ticket on Cent OS carefully. Until we make a
decision that we do not want to provide Linux-32 binaries, we need a 32-bit
Cent OS 5 buildbot.  I'' create a new ticket today.


> Setting a translation deadline early in 2015 (like 4 January or 11
> January) would allow us to work with translators during the end-of-year
> holidays and get a couple more languages in, as well as identifying the
> bugs to be fixed. For example https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
> show_bug.cgi?id=125567 is a good candidate, but still needs substantial
> investigation it seems.
>
>  This is of course only my opinion and possibly a very lonely one.
>>
>
> It's a good one. Let's see how to move on.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>
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