Thanks Rob, I will see how we can complete this as "Training Academy for Apache OpenOffice".
Regards, Sheran On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 12:05 AM, Sheran Corera <sherancor...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Great! Thanks for the feedback. > > > > I had a discussion with our integration team, we would be happy to > > contribute the effort required to create a course and provide an > instance of > > the platform - give it free of charge to users. > > > > However, we would like to brand this as "Apache Open Office Training > > Academy" or similar - can we do this (with explicit permission from AOO > as > > per trademark policy) given that this is a community support effort, with > > material offered for free, and does not violate ALv2? > > > > Hi Sheran, > > You can read the official trademark policy for Apache here: > > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ > > Note that some things ("nominative use") require no further > permission. Beyond that you would need to request permission from the > PMC. In general we avoid using trademarks as adjectives. So > "Training Academy for Apache OpenOffice" might be OK, but not "Apache > OpenOffice Training Academy". The key is to make it clear what the > source of the service is. > > Regards, > > -Rob > > > > Regards, > > Sheran > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 2:25 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Sheran Corera <sherancor...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > Rob / Jani and all, > >> > > >> > What we would like to do, is to take this forward in partnership with > >> > Open > >> > Office in an official manner and run some courses on a rev-share or > >> > similar > >> > so that we can put effort into doing this as well and sell training to > >> > users together with Open Office. > >> > > >> > Since this would then be partly a commercial effort, does this require > >> > us > >> > to send a formal proposal to the pmc or go into a vote or is there a > >> > seperate process for this? > >> > > >> > >> It might be worth giving a high-level description of what you had in > >> mind, without spending too much effort and asking for PMC feedback. > >> But as Jan mentioned, the ASF is a US-based non-profit corporation. > >> So there are restrictions on what kinds of commercial partnerships we > >> can engage in. In particular I don't think we could be involved in > >> selling training. > >> > >> Would it be interesting to have a free OpenOffice course that also is > >> effective as a showcase of the LayUp platform? That would fit better > >> with our status and mission. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> -Rob > >> > >> > >> > Please let me know. > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > Sheran > >> > On Jan 20, 2014 7:43 PM, "Isuru Hewavitharana" < > >> > isuru.hewavithar...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Sheran / Rob, > >> >> > >> >> I have changed the logo and text as requested. Please do a cache > >> >> refresh > >> >> (CTRL + F5) and retry. > >> >> > >> >> Cheers! > >> >> Isuru > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Sheran Corera < > sherancor...@gmail.com > >> >> >wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > Thanks Rob, > >> >> > > >> >> > As per the system, you can configure what courses you want to keep > >> >> > open / > >> >> > closed / work according to the point system, so you can run say 3 > >> >> courses, > >> >> > for beginners, intermediate, advanced so each user can select which > >> >> > level > >> >> > to participate in. > >> >> > > >> >> > If it is felt that the users need validation (an assessment to > gauge > >> >> their > >> >> > skill level) prior to selecting which course they should take, that > >> >> > can > >> >> > integrated with ease as well from the back-end. > >> >> > > >> >> > A colleague, Isuru is on copy, he will change the logo asap in > order > >> >> > to > >> >> not > >> >> > violate any trademark policies. > >> >> > > >> >> > Regards, > >> >> > Sheran > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> > wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Sheran Corera > >> >> > > <sherancor...@gmail.com > >> >> > > >> >> > > wrote: > >> >> > > > Re-posting to dev-list from documentation. > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > Hi All, > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > Going through the Open Office documentation, I noticed the huge > >> >> effort > >> >> > > > taken on content creation and maintenance in each of the > >> >> > > > different > >> >> > > > Wikis<http://www.openoffice.org/documentation/> and > >> >> > > > a separate effort to certify users via the certification > >> >> > > > project<http://www.openoffice.org/certification/> (which > >> >> > > > is really great!). > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > At LayUp <http://www.getlayup.com/?source=oa>, we're working > on > >> >> > building > >> >> > > > something similar (a gamified, retention oriented training and > >> >> > > > certification platform targeted entirely at software products) > >> >> > > > and we > >> >> > > would > >> >> > > > like to help take the online certification aspect to the next > >> >> > > > level > >> >> and > >> >> > > > setup a live demo. > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > I've setup an online demo of what such a system could look like > >> >> > > > for > >> >> > Open > >> >> > > > Office > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > URL - *Open Office Demo - LayUP > >> >> > > > <http://www.getlayup.com/layup/index.php?site=demo2>* > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > The login credentials for *user *and *admin *are as follows - > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > *Username* - user > >> >> > > > *Password *- demo > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > *Username *- admin > >> >> > > > *Password *- demo > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > We've taken a lot of effort into setting this up, so instead of > >> >> > > > just > >> >> > > > spamming it, we would appreciate if someone can have a look and > >> >> > > > guide > >> >> > us > >> >> > > on > >> >> > > > how we can take this forward. > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > I took a quick look. I like the platform, nice and clear, easy > to > >> >> > > use. I think new users would like this. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > From a learning perspective it might be worth having an install > >> >> > > module. This would be platform-specific (Windows install differs > >> >> > > from > >> >> > > Mac which differs from Linux). But we do receive a good deal of > >> >> > > support questions related to install, so this might be an area > >> >> > > worth > >> >> > > covering. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > I don't know if your platform allows it, but it would be great if > >> >> > > there was a way to take an initial test and based on test results > >> >> > > be > >> >> > > placed into a higher rank automatically, rather than having > >> >> > > everyone > >> >> > > start at the same initial level. That way it could be > interesting > >> >> > > for > >> >> > > skill building of users who know a little, as well as absolute > >> >> > > beginners. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > You'll need to give some attention to the trademark issues > involved > >> >> > > here as well. You currently have it called "Apache OpenOffice > >> >> > > Academy > >> >> > > by Layup". That name, plus the use of the Apache OpenOffice > logo, > >> >> > > suggests a certain relationship between the website and the > >> >> > > OpenOffice > >> >> > > project which could confuse users. You can read more about our > >> >> > > trademark policy here: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > http://openoffice.apache.org/trademarks.html > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Note: the speed for me was perfect. No issues. I'm near > Boston. > >> >> > > Jan is in Spain. I wonder whether that could be part of the > issue? > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Regards, > >> >> > > > >> >> > > -Rob > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > The effort is much appreciated! > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > Thanks, > >> >> > > > Sheran > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > >
