On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 11:40:14 +0100 Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hagar Delest wrote: > > Why not a mailing list as long as it is private. > > If you find someone to explain how it would work and to implement it, no > > problem. > > A private list works exactly like the PMC private list (discussion list; > posts from external people are moderated; moderation happens via > e-mail). Maybe it is possible to create an "open" mailing list where all > posts immediately reach the list with no moderation. > > You need: > - an @openoffice.apache.org address for the list (is > ooo-forum-en-serv...@apache.org a proposal for an address? or something > else, already existing?) > - the Apache accounts of two moderators (who also manage subscriptions) > > Just give these details here, and then we can wait for consensus and > open the JIRA issue for Infra to create the list. > > > The problem is that all the volunteers who dealt with the technical > > issues linked to ASF have quit. Strange, isn't it? > > It is explained by the fact that on one side we don't want to put the > bar so high that it would exclude people from helping, but on the other > one we receive pressure from Infra (and I believe it's right) to have a > more "professional" approach to maintenance. > > So basically so far we've lived on short-term assignments, but we are > working on defining rules between the PMC and Infra that will guarantee > a professional maintenance, more stability and a framework for > established volunteers to get more involved. > > > To be honest, I'm starting to believe that the adaptation is only one > > way and that some people are not that happy to deal with a forum. > > The forum is an important asset. It is just difficult to deal with from > a management point of view, since it is not a technology commonly used > at Apache. > > > phpBB is not up to date, the download icon has not been changed yet > > and of course, there is no automated mailbox reply. > > I'd love to change some of this. I have access to the forum VM, but it > is limited to restarting services; I can't even update the download > icon. And you are correct in saying that it is frustrating to see that > pending, approved changes are not applied. I hope we can move to a more > efficient maintenance model at the beginning of 2014. > > Regards, > Andrea. Some rough statistics concerning the en-Forum may help to realise the load it (and the other Forums) remove from the mailing lists. I monitored one week at the end of September. There were 24 new members, 23 new topics and 110 posts per day. So these 110 posts did not come to the dev and other mailing lists. In addition, there are roughly 10 times as many people accessing the existing information and hopefully finding answers to their problems, without having to register and pose a query. So the mailing lists are spared a considerable amount of traffic because of the Forums. One can also see in many ML replies to Help queries the increasing use of references to Forum threads which solve the query. OT: Don't get me started on the inability of many students to state a meaningful query for a search engine! -- Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
