On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Marcus (OOo) <marcus.m...@wtnet.de>
> wrote:
> > Am 11/12/2013 08:12 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> >
> >> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Andrea Pescetti<pesce...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Herbert Duerr wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 12.11.2013 16:48, janI wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> @herbert, if nobody objects will you reopen the ticket, or should I ?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I have reopened the JIRA issue and requested a read-only mirror for
> now.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> And what would be the advantage for real contributors in having a
> >>> read-only
> >>> GIT mirror? The complaints I've seen so far are mostly in the other
> >>> direction (i.e., committing or applying patches). I'm not talking about
> >>> generic advantages of GIT: everybody here can be assumed to have a good
> >>> working knowledge of both SVN and GIT. What concrete problems does a
> >>> read-only GIT mirror solve in our case?
> >>>
> >>> I'm not at all against it, but I'd just like to make sure that a
> >>> read-only
> >>> GIT mirror brings enough concrete advantages, since many GIT niceties
> >>> (local
> >>> commits, proper attribution, quick application of patches) are still
> left
> >>> out or significantly limited with this approach.
> >>>
> >>> By the way, you can find discussions about GIT everywhere at Apache,
> >>> there's
> >>> even a Github account https://github.com/apache and lots of
> suggestions
> >>> like
> >>> adopting the newly-released Apache Allura (Incubating) GIT (and more)
> >>> hosting environment. As far as I know, there have been very significant
> >>> updates in the GIT support at Apache in the last few weeks and I hope
> >>> that
> >>> this is soon summarized in a blog post at
> http://blogs.apache.org/infra/
> >>> or
> >>> reflected in the documentation at http://www.apache.org/dev/git.html. So
> >>> this is a good moment to start considering GIT again.
> >>>
> >>
> >> We should consider the website as well.  Does the CMS have hooks that
> >> work with git repositories as well?  Or would we need to keep the
> >> website in SVN?
> >
> >
> > Good point. This has to be clarified as we don't want to keep our website
> > volunteers outside just because the CMS system doesn't support Git. To
> let
> > everybody of them commit via CLI or GUI tools wouldn't be nice.
> >
>
> But if it is an issue then one solution could be to move the product
> source to git and keep the websites in SVN.  We're generally not
> dealing with multiple complex branches for the website, so the
> advantages of git here are less.
>
> -Rob
>

On this latest topic here -- we really should NOT consider switching the
web to git if this doesn't play well with the CMS --GUI or otherwise.

On the rest of it...as someone not busy with active development, maybe I
shouldn't voice an opinion, but... I didn't know svn until this Apache work
-- having used the old CVS prior to this. And, I don't know git or git-svn
at all, but, as been pointed out -- I can learn.

My one question at this point concerns the "official" Apache repositories --

http://www.apache.org/dev/version-control.html

Are we obligated to use svn for this, or the permanent distribution? Use
git only for some branches but not all?

And, like Andrea, I don't see what supplying a read-only git mirror gets
us, but, I guess we need to learn more about the "security" considerations.



>
> > Marcus
> >
> >
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