Hi Keith,
On 29.08.2013 01:37, Keith Curtis wrote:
I believe it matters how much code comes from IBM. Code coming from
anywhere is good, but diversity of community is a good measure of health.
LibreOffice, the Linux kernel, and other groups publish such charts for a
reason. In AOO, it is hard to find out where everyone works, which can
confuse many into seeing more diversity than what exists.
At Apache, every developer acts as an individual, that might be the
reason there are no 'lists' about employee relationships. It is not
wanted at Apache to act in the interest of the company which you are
payed for, and from my POV that's a good and proved thing. Of course
it's a 'do-ocracy', so things which are in the interest of developers
get done, simple as that, but everyone taking place can do just that.
People saying there is some influence could change this immediately by
joining themselves and do what they think is necessary - always without
the intent of company influence, as described above - so this claim is
somewhat home-made. Noone can 'control' an Apache project, that's one of
the principles behind it (AFAIU).
It is true that the 65M downloads is a reason to work in AOO. However,
there are many other reasons to choose one or another:
http://mmohrhard.wordpress.com/2013/01/30/why-i-contribute-my-changes-to-libreoffice-and-wont-relicense-them-to-a-non-copyleft-license/Contributors
don't work with random users, they work with other
contributors.
I think he got some stuff unintendedly wrong. Hey may have been asked
kindly if he wants to put some stuff under ALv2 (I see nothing bad about
this, the codebases are nearly the same and one is already massively
using stuff from the other which then stays under ALv2 btw). The claim
that it else needs to be rewritten is surely not a 'pressure' tool, but
the consequence of the used different licenses - noone wants to rewrite
code that already exists, would you?
For freedom of the community - I have seen concrete requests for
collaboration in specific areas being denied, what is okay. The thing I
see as surprising is that this happened without asking the community or
user base on any list there - something impossible at Apache - 'What did
not happen on the list did not happen'.
Just my 2 cents...
Sincerely,
Armin
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