On 8/27/13 10:27 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> On 8/26/13 6:26 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <
>>> orwittm...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25.08.2013 23:56, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Right now SNAPSHOT is pointing to rev. 1499347.
>>>>> Does this need to be changed to rev. 1516808?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> just for completeness - rev. 1516808 is the current 'head' revision of
>>>> branch AOO401.
>>>>
>>>
>>> yes...
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> As far as I know, we used the SNAPSHOT tag to tag certain revision for
>>>> snapshot builds from trunk.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> For the recent snapshot build for our way to a AOO 4.0.1 release Jürgen
>>>> proposed to build a certain revision from branch AOO401. Thus, just
>> another
>>>> approach.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well maybe I am not understanding the term...I'm looking at Jurgen's
>>> message from 8/22
>>>
>>>  http://markmail.org/message/sttjvg642yzqid5z
>>>
>>> I thought that as of that day, at whatever revision level that was, the
>> tag
>>> should have been moved. It wasn't, so now we are at a different revision
>>> level in trunk, but....?
>>>
>>> Mostly the reason I ask is that some builds via buildbot are not working
>>> given the current SNAPSHOT tag -- old.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I think we should continue to use SNAPSHOT tag for snapshot builds from
>>>> trunk. May be it should be named TRUNKSNAPSHOT next time it is moved.
>>>> For snapshot build from a certain branch, we can continue as in the
>> past -
>>>> just announce the revision used for branch snapshot building - or we
>> could
>>>> introduce a corresponding tag - may be <branch name>SNAPSHOT.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Really, I am mostly asking became of how the buildbots are setup. I think
>>> we should standardize on a process and definition of SNAPSHOT.
>>
>> I agree and I would like to come to the state where we can simply use
>> the builds of the build bots and that they are compatible with the
>> release builds. I still don't know if that is possible today. At least
>> for Mac we don't have a build bot and we need the 64 bit changes.
>>
>> Linux build bots are to new and are not comparable with the release
>> builds Ariel did.
> 
> 
> Well probably not, and this is unfortunate. Ariel's builds are always right
> on for me. Right now none of the builds on buildbot running as SNAPSHOT
> work fro any configuration due to the old "tag" problem I think.

you get me wrong, I mean the Linux version of the build bots. Ariel
built on CentOS5 systems that have an older baseline. I didn't meant the
version of the office sources.

> 
> 
>> Windows is probably close but I don't know for sure if
>> it the same. For example if the 64 bit shell extensions are build
>> correct on the Windows bot.
>>
>> A SNAPSHOT should be a special version where we agree more or less that
>> it is worth to take a closer look on it from a QA perspective. Nightly
>> builds are for developers mainly.
>>
> 
> Well, I'm not sure there's a LOT of difference here. You used the work
> snapshot in your previous message, and well, I think that means the same,
> whether the QA folks want to get involved at this level or not.
> 

I don't understand

Juergen

> 
>> At the moment the SNAPSHOT tag is outdated and we build old version
>> which makes of course no sense.
>>
>> I will move the tag on the branch for the next build ...
>>
> 
> thank you! That makes more sense to me.
> 
> 
>>
>> By the way where can I read the information about the setup of the build
>> bots and what is build when?
>>
> 
> There's not a lot out there for most of us to look at unless we step up to
> help more with this....
> 
> Here is the link to our "build" config page (commiiters only):
> 
> 
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/buildbot/aegis/buildmaster/master1/projects/openofficeorg.conf
> 
> I can't get any specific info on the buildbots themselves -- what specific
> OS version, what's installed etc. -- really except what's provided by infra:
> 
> http://ci.apache.org/
> 
> but some of this site is outdated because our 32-bit linux builds run on:
> 
> http://ci.apache.org/buildslaves/bb-vm2_ubuntu_32bit
> 
> which isn't listed in the ci page, along with tethus-ubuntu which is
> running our 64-bit linux nightly build.  No Mac buildbot at all. Not sure
> what this would take. There is an outstanding issue (old) for it.
> 
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4197
> 
> It would be super if we could get normal and snapshot builds set up on the
> buildbot for our various configurations.
> 
> 
> 
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards, Oliver.
>>>>
>>>>
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