2013/8/20 Marcus (OOo) <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> > Am 08/20/2013 08:12 PM, schrieb Donald Whytock: > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:29 AM, sebb<seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On 20 August 2013 01:20, Rob Weir<robw...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de> >>>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Am 08/19/2013 09:51 PM, schrieb sebb: >>>>> >>>>> On 19 August 2013 20:27, Rob Weir<robw...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Andrea Pescetti<pesce...@apache.org >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 19/08/2013 sebb wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Note that the page http://www.openoffice.org/** >>>>>>>>> download/other.htmlalso<http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.htmlalso> >>>>>>>>> requires Javascript! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is not so good. The noscript option should direct the user to >>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-**closer.cgi/openoffice/<http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/openoffice/> >>>>>>>> (users who disable JavaScript are likely to be able to browse the >>>>>>>> FTP-like >>>>>>>> structure they will see there). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Whatever method is chosen, I think it should be possible to >>>>>>>>> download >>>>>>>>> AOO without the use of Javascript. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It should also be possible to download OpenOffice in the cases where >>>>>>>> JavaScript parsing breaks, i.e., we should have alternative download >>>>>>>> links >>>>>>>> that are always visible (working JavaScript, broken Javascript, no >>>>>>>> JavaScript). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think this is the key insight. There are actually three cases to >>>>>>> consider: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) Java script disabled >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2) Javascript is supported, but not working with our page >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3) Javascript working fine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some of the more recent reports are about #2. These are older >>>>>>> versions of Internet Explorer, e.g., I.E. 6. A<noscript> block >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> not help in this case. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> But if it is possible to detect the broken Javascript without >>>>>> crashing, then it would be possible to treat the browser as if it did >>>>>> not have Javascript. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Right, has anybody an idea how to detect such broken JS engines? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> From this test it looks like the main issue is Internet Explorer before >>>> >>> I.E. 8: >>> >>>> >>>> http://browsershots.org/http:/**/www.openoffice.org/download/<http://browsershots.org/http://www.openoffice.org/download/> >>>> >>>> One approach is to see if you can code around that error and get it to >>>> work correctly on older I.E. installs. >>>> >>>> Another approach is to use one of these techniques to detect older >>>> I.E. and then fall back to a non-script page: >>>> >>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-**us/library/ms537509%28v=vs.85%**29.aspx<http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537509%28v=vs.85%29.aspx> >>>> >>> >>> It might also be possible to use the HTTP headers User-Agent and >>> Accepts-Language as a backstop for when Javascript is not available. >>> This might need some Infra config support. >>> >>> -Rob >>>> >>>> Marcus >>>>> >>>> >>> >> Just me-too-ing here...I can't get to the download list right now from my >> office, with IE8, scripting disabled and a somewhat draconian firewall. I >> can get to SourceForge, though. >> >> Should there be an "If that doesn't work, click here" link, perhaps >> pointing to...? >> >> http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/** >> files/4.0.0/binaries/<http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/> >> > > But then we run into the problem that Rainer has already reported: > The file names in the visible area are all the same. You cannot > differenciate between them - as long as you don't hover the mouse over each > one until you have found your favorite. > > See here: > http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/** > files/4.0.0/binaries/en-US/<http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/en-US/> > > So, a fallback to the Apache mirror is currently the better option. > > @Roberto: > I've lost a bit the latest update. Is it possible to change it in a way > that the file names are completely shown?
Hi Marcus, I've just added a comment on bugzilla. I was wondering if it would work for you since you're a project admin and by logging in you should be able to see files full names. Correct? Roberto > > > Marcus > > > ------------------------------**------------------------------**--------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org<dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >
