On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:29 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 20 August 2013 01:20, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Marcus (OOo) <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> > wrote: > >> Am 08/19/2013 09:51 PM, schrieb sebb: > >> > >>> On 19 August 2013 20:27, Rob Weir<robw...@apache.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Andrea Pescetti<pesce...@apache.org> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> On 19/08/2013 sebb wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Note that the page http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.htmlalso > >>>>>> requires Javascript! > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> This is not so good. The noscript option should direct the user to > >>>>> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/openoffice/ > >>>>> (users who disable JavaScript are likely to be able to browse the > >>>>> FTP-like > >>>>> structure they will see there). > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Whatever method is chosen, I think it should be possible to download > >>>>>> AOO without the use of Javascript. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> It should also be possible to download OpenOffice in the cases where > >>>>> JavaScript parsing breaks, i.e., we should have alternative download > >>>>> links > >>>>> that are always visible (working JavaScript, broken Javascript, no > >>>>> JavaScript). > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> I think this is the key insight. There are actually three cases to > >>>> consider: > >>>> > >>>> 1) Java script disabled > >>>> > >>>> 2) Javascript is supported, but not working with our page > >>>> > >>>> 3) Javascript working fine. > >>>> > >>>> Some of the more recent reports are about #2. These are older > >>>> versions of Internet Explorer, e.g., I.E. 6. A<noscript> block will > >>>> not help in this case. > >>> > >>> > >>> But if it is possible to detect the broken Javascript without > >>> crashing, then it would be possible to treat the browser as if it did > >>> not have Javascript. > >> > >> > >> Right, has anybody an idea how to detect such broken JS engines? > >> > > > > From this test it looks like the main issue is Internet Explorer before > I.E. 8: > > > > http://browsershots.org/http://www.openoffice.org/download/ > > > > One approach is to see if you can code around that error and get it to > > work correctly on older I.E. installs. > > > > Another approach is to use one of these techniques to detect older > > I.E. and then fall back to a non-script page: > > > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537509%28v=vs.85%29.aspx > > It might also be possible to use the HTTP headers User-Agent and > Accepts-Language as a backstop for when Javascript is not available. > This might need some Infra config support. > > > -Rob > > > >> Marcus >
Just me-too-ing here...I can't get to the download list right now from my office, with IE8, scripting disabled and a somewhat draconian firewall. I can get to SourceForge, though. Should there be an "If that doesn't work, click here" link, perhaps pointing to...? http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/ Don
