Am 07/29/2013 09:45 PM, schrieb sebb:
On 29 July 2013 19:27, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de>  wrote:
Am 07/26/2013 11:10 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 07/26/2013 10:44 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

On 25/07/2013 Marcus (OOo) wrote:

I've created a new webpage to offer all possible download links for a
release version:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other_tables.html


This is really nice, looking forward to seeing it online!


see below

It's especially important to have a link to checksums for those who want
a "static" reference to it or want to verify a package on a different
system than the one used for downloading.


That was one intension, yes.

- all possible downloads for a respective language and OS in a single
place


I foresee another interesting way to use that page, i.e., getting more
localization volunteers. Let's get this version online first, but maybe
we could then add another table with something like "The following
languages are released only as source code:", and then a list of each of
the 90+ remaining languages with the link to help us release it (in most
cases, it will be a link to http://openoffice.apache.org/translate.html
but in some cases it might be different).


Good idea. However, I think I've to add more additions than one can
thought. But this is no obstacle.

@Andrea:
I've already considered your smaller font size wish for the checksum
links.


Thanks, looks great.


Thanks. :-)

Even when I've missed to state it from the beginning but I expect to use
lazy consensus here. If there are no objections I plan to make it Live
at ~Sunday evening Hamburg time.


As I haven't seen any objections I'll create the new "other.html" in a the
next time.

Sorry, but I find the page hard to use.

Most people will not need any language packs, so why clutter the table
with them?

Also if a user does want to add multiple language packs, it's hard
work finding them amongst all the full installations.

I think it would be a lot clearer for the page to be laid out
something like the following:

This was the old system and the goal was to integrate all files that belong to a specific language and platform.

If it's hard to read due to a small font size, this could be changed. Otherwise I don't thing that it's too confusing.

---------------- [ cut here ] ---------------

...

---------------- [ cut here ] ---------------


If it is possible to provide a dynamic page, then it might be nice to
determine the platform first (user selected; perhaps with
auto-detected default), and then use the platform to display only the
installation sets and language packs for that platform.

The dynamic thing is not to continue the data guessing from the main download webpage but to simplify the modification for new releases.

The "other.html" is a kind of fallback when:

a) the user is not able to use the green box on the previous main download webpage.

b) or when he is searching for a build different from the browser's language / platform.

As we don't know the reason(s) for a) there shouldn't be any limitations to give the user the full control to find what he needs.
And if b) it will help him as well.

The difference of full installations and language packs is described directly above the table by your suggestion.

That would avoid problems with people downloading the language pack
for the wrong platform.

Sorry, but this can also happen in the current "other.html".

I think it would make for a better end-user experience.

I would say: Let the users decide. :-) If we get a reasonable amount of complains then we can go back to different tables.

Marcus


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