On 11 June 2013 16:01, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > We used to have the old Distribution project that for the most part has > > been revised to a very minimal presence... > > http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/ > > > > Recently, there seems to be a renewed interest in posting information > > about new and former Apache OpenOffice distribution outlets -- notably > > CD/DVD sets. And old page containing CD/DVD vendors still exists but is > > not linked in any place. Since /distribution/cdrom/sellers.html is > > redirected because of changes to this area, you can see and download the > > old page from svn: > > > > > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/distribution/cdrom/sellers.html?view=log > > > > Are we interested in reviving this listing, or something similar to it? > > Pros...Cons, etc. > > > > Looking at queries on the mailing list, forums, etc., we don't get a > lot of people asking for CDs. Maybe 15 or 20 in the last year, yes? > Compare that to over 50 million downloads. So I don't think this is > critical, but no objections to having such a list. > > On the other hand, unless the page is very prominently linked, like > from our home page, I doubt the casual user will find it. And if > someone wants to buy a CD it is easy to just type "buy openoffice cd" > into a search engine and see places where you can buy a CD, including > Amazon, etc. In some sense Google and Bing are better at helping > users find information than we are, even when that information is on > our own website! >
+1 to make a prominent third party site in different languages, linked directly from our top pages, that way google spider will catch the third party product hotter than otherwise. > > > A new listing would not have to be by region as this old one is. Given > > update issues in the past, if we provided a new listing page, we would > > likely need disclaimers regarding: accuracy, support, relation to Apache > > OpenOffice(this project), etc. > > > > As with all our web pages, we could accept additions though the CMS from > > non-commtters. > > > > Levels in which we might do things: > > Level 1 -- Do nothing but watch for abuses. If someone wants to sell > a CD, then they are free to do it, per the license. They can > advertise on eBay, their website, etc., but they have no permission to > use the trademarks. Nothing special on our website. > > > Level 2 -- We allow a listing on our website (or wiki) of those who > offer CDs. But we make no attempt to verify anything. It is all > "caveat emptor". We put in disclaimers on the page so users know that > we have not vetted anything. > > Level 3 -- We review requests for listing and approve them only if > they meet our qualifications, which might include proper use of > trademarks, a link back to our website, etc. This is similar to what > we did with consultants. > > Level 4 -- Like Level 3, but for those distributors who meet our > qualifications we offer a special logo they can use, something like a > "Community Distributor". > > Personally, I think Level 1 is fine. But Level 2 doesn't really help > our users. We'd be offering placement on our website to vendors > without really getting anything in return. So I think we want > something like Level 3 or Level 4, where we promote the public good by > reviewing and approving the listings that meeting reasonable criteria. > I think we should aim at 3), and while we are getting a new logo consider 4), which I think is the best. rgds jan I. > > Criteria might include (and this has been discussed in some older threads): > > 1) Proper acknowledgements of trademarks > > 2) Link back to www.openoffice.org > > 3) Distributes the most-recent version of AOO (within some time period > after a new release) > > 4) Makes it clear that any charge is for the media and convenience, > not for the underlying AOO software > > Stuff like that. This could be in the form of an agreement that the > distributor signs off on. > > Regards, > > -Rob > > > > > > -- > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > MzK > > > > "You can't believe one thing and do another. > > What you believe and what you do are the same thing." > > -- Leonard Peltier > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >
