On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Dave Barton <d...@tasit.net> wrote: > -------- Original Message -------- > From: Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org <dev@openoffice.apache.org>, Dennis > Hamilton <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> > Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 08:45:32 -0400 > >> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <orc...@apache.org> wrote: >>> I think if the "Apache" is made thicker by using Bold and a touch darker >>> grey, it will work much better, at least as positioned in the Rottensteiner >>> Stage 2 refinement. It also gives "Apache" more (symbolic) weight without >>> overpowering the "OpenOffice" part. >>> >>> I agree one wants to use the best of resampled PNG and regenerated SVG at >>> the lower size. Also, if the SVG has hints about the visually-intended >>> size (at whatever pixel resolution), the fonts may be adjusted >>> automatically to avoid excessive thinning at smaller presentation sizes. >>> Then there are the tricks needed when rasterization also becomes >>> significant. >>> >> >> Right. And I hope that no one thinks that we're voting for pixels >> carved in marble. We're voting on a design. I'd expect ordinary >> technical adjustments to be made to suit the scale and medium of a >> particular use. It should feel the same to a user, of course. That's >> the advantage of having the vector source to a logo. With the current >> logo it has been difficult to work with, since we only have the orb as >> a bitmap. >> >> -Rob > > Maybe I am missing something here (very possible), but I have the > current logo and a couple of variants in svg format. If required I would > be happy to upload them. > > If someone would be kind enough to advise me how to create a public html > page ~bmcs (like https://people.apache.org/~arielch/), I will put all > the OOo & AOO related svg images I have collected there. >
Could you check what you have? I have a version as well, where there is an SVG, but the SVG merely points to a bitmap image for the orb and gulls. So not really pure SVG. If you have something that is entirely SVG, feel free to send it along and I can check it into SVN for you. -Rob > Dave > >>> - Dennis >>> >>> I don't have enough personal knowledge about SVG implementations and font >>> hinting (although Adobe has information about it). I do know that Knuth >>> had to introduce anomorphic scaling into his fonts because the smaller ones >>> would become visually too thin at the smaller point sizes if simply scaled >>> geometrically. It's a human vision thing. He was producing images for >>> production publishing systems and had a luxury of pixels; there was more >>> involved that nudging pixel alignments. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 04:54 PM >>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >>> Subject: Re: [VOTE][DISCUSS] Logo selection for Apache OpenOffice 4.0 >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Staring a [VOTE][DISCUSS] thread parallel to the [VOTE] thread. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> . >>>> . >>>> . >>>>> >>>>> My comments with some very preliminary testing: the VERY LIGHT gray >>>>> "Apache" in any form doesn't scale well going smaller. The very thin >>>>> letters also don't scale well going smaller. >>>>> >>>> >>>> How did you scale the image? By resizing the PNG file? If so that >>>> probably doesn't give the optimal quality. >>> >>> >>> yes, this is what I did... >>> >>> >>>> If we resize from the SVG >>>> source, and if the SVG references a vector font with "hinting", then >>>> it is possible that the text will be clearer at smaller sizes. In >>>> theory that should help with the letter scaling. Not sure about the >>>> light gray. >>>> >>> >>> Well maybe someone could resize appropriately. Our current "web" logo is >>> only 200 x 100. I actually used 300 x ??? (kept the aspect ratio) and >>> things were not great on any of these with that very light gray >>> "Apache"...even slightly darker would help I think. >>> >>> >>>> -Rob > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
