On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <orc...@apache.org> wrote: > I think if the "Apache" is made thicker by using Bold and a touch darker > grey, it will work much better, at least as positioned in the Rottensteiner > Stage 2 refinement. It also gives "Apache" more (symbolic) weight without > overpowering the "OpenOffice" part. > > I agree one wants to use the best of resampled PNG and regenerated SVG at the > lower size. Also, if the SVG has hints about the visually-intended size (at > whatever pixel resolution), the fonts may be adjusted automatically to avoid > excessive thinning at smaller presentation sizes. Then there are the tricks > needed when rasterization also becomes significant. >
Right. And I hope that no one thinks that we're voting for pixels carved in marble. We're voting on a design. I'd expect ordinary technical adjustments to be made to suit the scale and medium of a particular use. It should feel the same to a user, of course. That's the advantage of having the vector source to a logo. With the current logo it has been difficult to work with, since we only have the orb as a bitmap. -Rob > - Dennis > > I don't have enough personal knowledge about SVG implementations and font > hinting (although Adobe has information about it). I do know that Knuth had > to introduce anomorphic scaling into his fonts because the smaller ones would > become visually too thin at the smaller point sizes if simply scaled > geometrically. It's a human vision thing. He was producing images for > production publishing systems and had a luxury of pixels; there was more > involved that nudging pixel alignments. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 04:54 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [VOTE][DISCUSS] Logo selection for Apache OpenOffice 4.0 > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Staring a [VOTE][DISCUSS] thread parallel to the [VOTE] thread. >> >> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> . >> . >> . >> > >> > My comments with some very preliminary testing: the VERY LIGHT gray >> > "Apache" in any form doesn't scale well going smaller. The very thin >> > letters also don't scale well going smaller. >> > >> >> How did you scale the image? By resizing the PNG file? If so that >> probably doesn't give the optimal quality. > > > yes, this is what I did... > > >> If we resize from the SVG >> source, and if the SVG references a vector font with "hinting", then >> it is possible that the text will be clearer at smaller sizes. In >> theory that should help with the letter scaling. Not sure about the >> light gray. >> > > Well maybe someone could resize appropriately. Our current "web" logo is > only 200 x 100. I actually used 300 x ??? (kept the aspect ratio) and > things were not great on any of these with that very light gray > "Apache"...even slightly darker would help I think. > > >> -Rob >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > MzK > > "You can't believe one thing and do another. > What you believe and what you do are the same thing." > -- Leonard Peltier > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
