On 2013/04/16 9:12 AM, Andre Fischer wrote:
On 15.04.2013 18:12, Herbert Dürr wrote:
On 2013/04/15 4:00 PM, Andre Fischer wrote:
I would like to change the build type of the Windows7 nightly build from
incremental to clean.
Reasons in favor of a clean build are:
- Developers don't have to know if a change is incompatible and thus
have to (somehow) trigger a clean build.
- Developers don't have to learn how to trigger a clean build.
- We avoid very subtle bugs that are introduced when an incremental
build is made on incompatible changes.
Issues 122047 and 122048 may be caused by such a broken build: the
office works in general, only commands are mapped to the wrong ids.
It is not acceptable to have builds that we can not rely on.
I'm having a deja vue moment ;-)
[1] http://markmail.org/message/lpprmeahwurvepx5
No, this thread does not apply. It was centered on the idea to change
the bootstrap file and thus to affect every build, not just the ones on
the buildbot. I don't want to change any files in SVN, only the
buildbot setup.
The central suggestion was to default to a clean build because of the
observation that dependencies currently don't work reliably which
results in artifacts that are not reproducible and waste a lot of time
was a direct hit.
It is clear that the cleaning has to be somewhere between configure and
the build steps. Where exactly was almost irrelevant. Bootstrap was only
suggested because it is the only step between configure and the actual
build. The "build --clean" suggested by Oliver had the problem that a
simple build restart, e.g. after one of the infamous dmake failures,
should not accidentally delete all the work already done.
I am thankful for your and Andrew's work but you describe a problem with
the current process, not with clean builds.
I prefer clean builds too and now that I'm hearing Andrew that is happy
with the change I'm all the happier with that. I already did it weeks
ago for the snapshot builds a couple of weeks ago which resulted in some
(minor) opposition then ;-)
BTW, was that a -1 or a 0 to my proposal?
It was a support vote for Andrew's evaluation of the situation who quite
clearly described why he liked the incremental build.
Herbert
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