On 4/15/13 2:12 PM, janI wrote: > On 15 April 2013 11:22, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 4/15/13 9:42 AM, janI wrote: >>> On 15 April 2013 00:23, Carl Marcum <cmar...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Jan, >>>> >>>> >>>> On 04/14/2013 02:58 PM, janI wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 14 April 2013 20:25, Carl Marcum <cmar...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Juergen, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 04/14/2013 01:32 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Carl, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am Sonntag, 14. April 2013 um 19:23 schrieb Carl Marcum: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 02/10/2013 04:11 PM, Carl Marcum wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 02/10/2013 02:50 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013 um 19:04 schrieb Carl Marcum: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I would like to branch NB integration plugin for 3.0 and start >>>>>>>>>>> modifying >>>>>>>>>>> trunk for AOO 4.0 compatibility. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I would like to also tag current version as 3.0.1 at the same >> time. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Trunk would become version 4.0 to maintain major version number >> the >>>>>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>>>>> as AOO. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If there are no objections to the above proposal within 72-hours >>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>> will invoke Lazy Consensus and proceed to implement the above >>>>>>>>>>> proposal. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You can if course create a branch but I don't see the demand for >>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>> You can continue the development towards 4.0 on trunk. I don't see >>>>>>>>>> many activity here and a branch is not really necessary from my >> pov. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Juergen >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>> Carl >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I agree. we can always create a branch based on a revision number >>>>>>>>> later if needed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I thought about it more and since the next changes will be >> incompatible >>>>>>>> with AOO 3.4 I tagged a 3.0.2 version and created a 3.0 branch to >> make >>>>>>>> it easier if someone needs to make changes for 3.4 compatible >> plugins. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I agree now and with my upcoming 3layer removal there will be some >>>>>>> work >>>>>>> to do in the plugin. It mainly that places of jars, tools, libs have >>>>>>> changed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Juergen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is this something that will be implemented in AOO 4 release? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> How come it is a 3.0 branch ?? that sounds old to me, shouldnt it be >>>>> 3.4.1x branch ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> The Netbeans plugin versions didn't historically coincide with the OOo >>>> version numbers (that I know of). >>>> >>>> When the code came to Apache it was version 2.0.7 and I tagged that >>>> version and started work to make it run on Netbeans 6.9 which was >> Netbeans >>>> 7.0 api changes. That's when I changed it to 3.0. Some additional >>>> localization work took it to 3.0.2. >>>> >>>> I'm not sure what the best solution to version numbering other than to >> do >>>> a major number change when it's not compatible with AOO or NB and keep a >>>> compatibility table somewhere. >>>> >>> >>> Thanks for clarifying it for me, I am still learning a lot, however I do >>> have some opinion on the version numbering. >>> >>> Netbeans is part of main, and released as an integrated part of AOO. As >> far >>> as I can see it is not available (for download) independent of AOO. If I >>> install AOO 4.0, have a problem and see netbeans is 3.0 I would assume >> that >>> I missed an upgrade. Therefore I will strongly suggest that all modules >> in >>> main get version 4.0. >>> >>> If I am wrong and netbeans are available independent, it should not be in >>> main. Because we will (as we did with 3.4.1) vote about releasing 4.0, >> and >>> then it would not be correct to silently release a new version of >> netbeans, >>> just because it is included. >>> >>> Please do not read my comments as I am against the work. I solely think >>> about the version number logistic, which I want to make as simple as >>> possible. >> >> The NetBeans plugin is a developer tool that uses OpenOffice and SDK and >> depends on a specific version in the future but it can be seen as >> independent and ideally we would bring it back in the plugin center of >> Netbeans directly. >> >> The plugin don't comes with the office and is not part of the source >> release. >> > > I thought the source release was the full main ??
yes, it is but the NetBeans plugin is not in main ;-) http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/netbeansintegration/ > > Where can I find the script that generates the source release ? solenv/bin/srcrelease.xml triggered in instset_native/util on demand, no default target Juergen > > rgds > jan i. > > >> >> Juergen >> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I do agree with the principle in having a branch. We have however to >> make >>>>> it clear to developers, that when using that branch their code will not >>>>> avalible with 4.0. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I agree, that's why I hope everyone continues to do work on trunk and we >>>> only merge changes if needed for some reason. But we have a well >>>> established break point. >>>> >>> >>> To me, branches should be used for work that goes across many modules >> (like >>> gbuild and l10n), or work that takes a long time (months) to complete. >> But >>> I have no strong opinion if somebody wants to use a branch, and have the >>> pain of merging it later. >>> >>> rgds >>> Jan I. >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> rgds >>>>> jan I. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Carl >>>> >>>> >>>> >> ------------------------------**------------------------------**--------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org< >> dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org