On 15 April 2013 00:23, Carl Marcum <cmar...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Jan,
>
>
> On 04/14/2013 02:58 PM, janI wrote:
>
>> On 14 April 2013 20:25, Carl Marcum <cmar...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Juergen,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/14/2013 01:32 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi Carl,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am Sonntag, 14. April 2013 um 19:23 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>>>>
>>>>   On 02/10/2013 04:11 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On 02/10/2013 02:50 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013 um 19:04 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to branch NB integration plugin for 3.0 and start
>>>>>>>> modifying
>>>>>>>> trunk for AOO 4.0 compatibility.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to also tag current version as 3.0.1 at the same time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trunk would become version 4.0 to maintain major version number the
>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>> as AOO.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If there are no objections to the above proposal within 72-hours
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> will invoke Lazy Consensus and proceed to implement the above
>>>>>>>> proposal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  You can if course create a branch but I don't see the demand for
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>> You can continue the development towards 4.0 on trunk. I don't see
>>>>>>> many activity here and a branch is not really necessary from my pov.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I agree. we can always create a branch based on a revision number
>>>>>> later if needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I thought about it more and since the next changes will be incompatible
>>>>> with AOO 3.4 I tagged a 3.0.2 version and created a 3.0 branch to make
>>>>> it easier if someone needs to make changes for 3.4 compatible plugins.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  I agree now and with my upcoming 3layer removal there will be some
>>>> work
>>>> to do in the plugin. It mainly that places of jars, tools, libs have
>>>> changed.
>>>>
>>>> Juergen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Is this something that will be implemented in AOO 4 release?
>>>
>>>
>> How come it is a 3.0 branch ?? that sounds old to me, shouldnt it be
>> 3.4.1x branch ?
>>
>>
> The Netbeans plugin versions didn't historically coincide with the OOo
> version numbers (that I know of).
>
> When the code came to Apache it was version 2.0.7 and I tagged that
> version and started work to make it run on Netbeans 6.9 which was Netbeans
> 7.0 api changes. That's when I changed it to 3.0. Some additional
> localization work took it to 3.0.2.
>
> I'm not sure what the best solution to version numbering other than to do
> a major number change when it's not compatible with AOO or NB and keep a
> compatibility table somewhere.
>

Thanks for clarifying it for me, I am still learning a lot, however I do
have some opinion on the version numbering.

Netbeans is part of main, and released as an integrated part of AOO. As far
as I can see it is not available (for download) independent of AOO. If I
install AOO 4.0, have a problem and see netbeans is 3.0 I would assume that
I missed an upgrade. Therefore I will strongly suggest that all modules in
main get version 4.0.

If I am wrong and netbeans are available independent, it should not be in
main. Because we will (as we did with 3.4.1) vote about releasing 4.0, and
then it would not be correct to silently release a new version of netbeans,
just because it is included.

Please do not read my comments as I am against the work. I solely think
about the version number logistic, which I want to make as simple as
possible.


>
>  I do agree with the principle in having a branch. We have however to make
>> it clear to developers, that when using that branch their code will not
>> avalible with 4.0.
>>
>
> I agree, that's why I hope everyone continues to do work on trunk and we
> only merge changes if needed for some reason. But we have a well
> established break point.
>

To me, branches should be used for work that goes across many modules (like
gbuild and l10n), or work that takes a long time (months) to complete. But
I have no strong opinion if somebody wants to use a branch, and have the
pain of merging it later.

rgds
Jan I.

>
>
>
>> rgds
>> jan I.
>>
>>
> Best regards,
> Carl
>
>
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