On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi Jani, > > Thanks for the MWiki work. I think that there are several discussions needed > in order to start the process of converting CWiki to MWiki and "modernize" > MWiki. > > Forgive me if I am ignorant of work that may be done already. > > Discussions could be: > > 1. Agreement on the Taxonomy of Categories. > > 2. Reorganize the main MWiki page. > > 3. Retirement strategy with redirects from important old pages that are > external link targets. >
And we do have several of these, for example the bounce message we use for emails to @openoffice.org addresses refers to a CWiki page. A few blog posts have referenced CWiki pages, as well. Unfortunately identifying these (except for the well-known ones) will be hard, since we don't have logs or Google Analytics for CWiki. But Infra might have access to useful data here. > 4. CWiki may serve a purpose as an idea scratch pad as it is very easy to use > (at least for me). Limit the migration away from it to important > documentation like build instructions. The separation may prove useful. > It might parallel the project-volunteer view of openoffice.apache.org versus user-view of www.openoffice.org. But that could also be done with distinct areas on a single wiki. > BTW - Have we solved the registration problem for MWiki? > > Regards, > Dave > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 4, 2013, at 8:51 AM, janI <j...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> We have just completed the last optimization of wiki.o.o, which means that >> it has entered maintenance mode. >> >> There is one outstanding bugzilla issue, which will be implemented if we >> can find a supported solution. >> >> Now would be a good time to think about the other things we have discussed >> earlier: >> - Move cwiki to mwiki. >> this has been discussed/decided earlier, but might need a positive >> decision. >> I for one find it very confusing to look in 2 wikis for the same >> information (e.g. build instructions) >> - Mark outdated paged with category outdated, and symbol on page >> A lot of the information in wiki is outdated and superseeded by new >> pages, its hard to find the correct info. >> If outpdated paged had the category "outdated" it would be easy to change >> search to excluded these >> - Put categories on all pages, and structure the pages >> Due to the very limited maintenance the page structure and catagory usage >> seems very random. >> >> We can hopefully expect high traffic volume when we release 4.0, which >> gives a natural timelimit when the wiki should be streamlined. Unless of >> course, the community does not find it embarrasing to have text like: >> >> "Teams >> This section is partly outdated. Visit Apache >> OpenOffice<http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/index.html>for >> actual information." >> >> on the front page, highlighting the priority of maintaining the wiki. >> >> Doing the work needed is too much for one person, it requires a small team. >> And based on my experience touching information can generate a lot of >> feelings, so the team should preferable contain enough "old" volunteers to >> guarantee that the changes are done historically correct. >> >> I will keep doing the running maintenance of the wiki2 server. >> >> Rgds >> jan I.
