On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi Jani, > > Thanks for the MWiki work. I think that there are several discussions > needed in order to start the process of converting CWiki to MWiki and > "modernize" MWiki. > > Forgive me if I am ignorant of work that may be done already. > > Discussions could be: > > 1. Agreement on the Taxonomy of Categories. > > 2. Reorganize the main MWiki page. > > 3. Retirement strategy with redirects from important old pages that are > external link targets. > > 4. CWiki may serve a purpose as an idea scratch pad as it is very easy to > use (at least for me). Limit the migration away from it to important > documentation like build instructions. The separation may prove useful. >
yes...I too find cwiki very quick and easy to use as a "scratch pad" . And, I like the way it automatically provides an outline structure for additions, etc. This is one thing I do not like about Mwiki at all. Mwiki provides categories, which I confess I don't really understand at all (more education needed), but this requires more effort for input, etc. I think before we migrate our cwiki information to Mwiki we need to spend a bit more time in assessing the ease of using Mwiki for what we do on cwiki. I can see a continued use for both in some respects. What I don't like now is the duplication, esp in the build instructions, that are on both locations. If we want to continue to use both for whatever reason, we should definitely define the purposes of each. The problems with actually deleting old Mwiki pages is a concern as well. > BTW - Have we solved the registration problem for MWiki? > > Regards, > Dave > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 4, 2013, at 8:51 AM, janI <j...@apache.org> wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > We have just completed the last optimization of wiki.o.o, which means > that > > it has entered maintenance mode. > > > > There is one outstanding bugzilla issue, which will be implemented if we > > can find a supported solution. > > > > Now would be a good time to think about the other things we have > discussed > > earlier: > > - Move cwiki to mwiki. > > this has been discussed/decided earlier, but might need a positive > > decision. > > I for one find it very confusing to look in 2 wikis for the same > > information (e.g. build instructions) > > - Mark outdated paged with category outdated, and symbol on page > > A lot of the information in wiki is outdated and superseeded by new > > pages, its hard to find the correct info. > > If outpdated paged had the category "outdated" it would be easy to > change > > search to excluded these > > - Put categories on all pages, and structure the pages > > Due to the very limited maintenance the page structure and catagory > usage > > seems very random. > > > > We can hopefully expect high traffic volume when we release 4.0, which > > gives a natural timelimit when the wiki should be streamlined. Unless of > > course, the community does not find it embarrasing to have text like: > > > > "Teams > > This section is partly outdated. Visit Apache > > OpenOffice<http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/index.html>for > > actual information." > > > > on the front page, highlighting the priority of maintaining the wiki. > > > > Doing the work needed is too much for one person, it requires a small > team. > > And based on my experience touching information can generate a lot of > > feelings, so the team should preferable contain enough "old" volunteers > to > > guarantee that the changes are done historically correct. > > > > I will keep doing the running maintenance of the wiki2 server. > > > > Rgds > > jan I. > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MzK "A great deal of talent is lost to the world for want of a little courage." -- Sydney Smith
