On Jan 14, 2013 10:52 PM, "Rob Weir" <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:09 PM, janI <j...@apache.org> wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I want to inform the community about an ongoing discussion in Infra > > regarding the use of "wiki.openoffice.org" or " wiki.openoffice.apache.org" > > > > Background: We decided sometime ago to let me upgrade mwiki, which I did, > > with great help from many in here. > > > > After that there has been a relatively high load on the VM (very positive) > > and bi-daily kernel panics due to lack of resources. > > > > It was then decided to make a new VM with a new ubuntu, instead of an > > upgrade in place (to get rid of the kernel panic) which I deemed risky due > > to the state (and documentation) of the installation. > > > > I have completed the work with the new VM, and we were ready to transfer > > the live site. > > > > At that point I learned about plans of using https instead of http. > > Infra-root has a policy that all logins (not only for committers) should be > > done through https. > > > > Using https, requires a certificate, and the ongoing discussion is whether > > "*.openoffice.org" is really needed or if "*.openoffice.apache.org" would > > be ok. > > > > If I have understood the details correctly (sorry for being vague, but I > > have not been able to get a clear answer), the users would address https: > > wiki.openoffice.org or http:wiki.openoffice.org and get a response as https: > > ooo-wiki.openoffice.org or https:ooo-wiki.openoffice.apache.org. > > > > IMHO renaming goes in the wrong direction. I think we should be > looking to get the entire website on to one domain, either all on > openoffice.org or all on openoffice.apache.org. Splitting things up > is confusing for users, makes extra work for us (and for Infra), > confuses the hell out of Google Analytics. > > I'd really like to see everything under one domain, including our blog > and even CWiki (or migrate CWiki over to MWiki). > > That's my ideal. Is it impossible? it is highly possible.
I thought converting cwiki was taken off the table. we discussed it earlier and said it should be after the upgrade. since then no one on the mwiki side have volunteered. > > > > I have written/mailed several times that openoffice.org is a legacy, very > > important to AOO, and hope it has been understood. The latest discussion > > seems to go in the direction of getting a certificate for openoffice.org , > > but there are no guarantees. > > > > Is the issue cost? We could do a mini-fundraising plea on our > homepage. I bet we could raise the necessary funds for the > certificate. > > Note: If I understand the security concern with the login, aren't we > in the same issue with the phpBB forums? Would a single cert be able > to cover that as well? Or do we need one cert per subdomain? for some reason there seems to be resistence against wildcard cert, even though apache.org is a wildcard. latest news is that the https discussion has been postponed, so we at least can get a stable server. > > Regards, > > -Rob > > > > > > I have informed infra, that I cannot participate in works that causes a url > > name change, without having a green light from the AOO community. Meaning > > that I am now just monitoring what happens and not participating. > > > > I am sorry to have partly caused the current situation, I wanted to make a > > clean installation to make the VM easier to maintain, had I not done that, > > the https discussion would problaly never have surfaced. > > > > I have no deadline for the change, mainly because it is done by others, but > > I am convinced that Infra will end with a solution that the community can > > accept. > > > > Please take this as information, I cannot go into a discussion on behalf of > > Infra (I am not infra, but we do have other committers that are infra). > > > > Rgds > > jan I.
