On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Keith N. McKenna <keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote: > Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >> >> On 11/21/12 5:33 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: >>> >>> Rob Weir wrote: >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Keith N. McKenna >>>> <keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Regina Henschel wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Jürgen, >>>>>> >>>>>> Jürgen Schmidt schrieb: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> first of all I would like to volunteer again as release manager for >>>>>>> our >>>>>>> next release if it's ok for our community. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> +1 >>>>>> >>>>> +1 on that from me also >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Second I would like to define with you what our next release will be. >>>>>>> After various discussion and activities on the mailing list and >>>>>>> also at >>>>>>> the ApacheCon, I got the impression that the majority would support a >>>>>>> 4.0 version as our next release. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not in favor of an version 4.0 as next release. The changes have >>>>>> listed below would justify a version "4.0". But I doubt, that they are >>>>>> possible in a time frame, I see for the next release. >>>>>> >>>>> I am with Regina on this one. I do not see a Jan or Feb time frame as >>>>> feasible for the design and implementation of a new and still a >>>>> comfortable >>>>> bit of padding to deal with the inevitable gremlins that will sneak >>>>> out of >>>>> the woodwork to assure the kind of quality release that is expected of >>>>> OpenOffice and that we expect of ourselves. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Uh, Juergen never suggested January or Feburary as a time frame for >>>> 4.0. So I don't see how one can dismiss a 4.0 proposal as being >>>> unfeasible based on dates that he never suggested. Maybe we should >>>> ask Juergen what timeframe he had in mind for 4.0? Of course, it >>>> might be possible to do both, provided we have volunteers willing to >>>> own testing and release management for 3.5. >>>> >>>> -Rob >>>> >>> As I re-read the post you are correct Rob and I apologize to Juergen for >>> reading to much between the lines. What timeframe were you considering >>> for a 4.0 release Juergan? >>> >> >> Well I had indeed not February in mind but when we targeting on end of >> March or April we will have more time. >> >> Maybe we can take first a look on what others have in mind to put in the >> next release. >> >> Juergen >> > This sounds like a good idea. My concern is that we have enough time to > adequately the changes, especially the potential UI changes, and that we > address the end of life issues with the 3.x.x line. We do not want to spring > possibly major UI changes on end users without adequate warning. >
Is there something users need to do to prepare for UI changes ? ;-) IMHO, if the changes are a bad idea we should never do them. But if the changes are a good idea then let's get them done, tested and released without delay. Yes, it will be a surprise for many end users. As far as I can tell most users still don't know we've moved to Apache either. -Rob > Regards > Keith >
