On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 1:45 AM Dmitri Shilov <dshi...@cthru.xyz> wrote:

> >  >
> >  >   1. Contributing Guidelines with hints for Reviewers.
> >  >
> >  > > We are adding additional section for Reviewers to Contributing
> >  > > Guidelines in order to provide checklist and complementary set of
> >  > > rules that should filter out breaking code as much as possible also
> >  > > on our side.
> >  >
> >  > +1 Tomek
> >  > +1 Alin
> >  > +1 Tiago
> >  > +1 TimK
> >  > +1 Lup
> >  > +1 Filipe
> >  > +1 Sebastien
> >  +1 Nathan
> +1 Dmitri
>
+1 Matteo

>
> >  >
> >  > 2. PR and GIT COMMITS must adhere to Contributing Guidelines or
> >  > rejected.
> >  >
> >  > > Each PR and GIT COMMIT **must** adhere to requirements presented in
> >  > > Contributing Guidelines or will be auto-rejected until fixed /
> >  > > updated. Both code authors and reviewers/committers must follow the
> >  > > rules. Special cases are defined in a separate dedicated rules.
> >  >
> >  > +1 Tomek
> >  > +1 Alin
> >  > +1 Tiago
> >  > +1 TimK
> >  > +1 Lup
> >  > +1 Filipe
> >  > +1 Sebastien
> >  +1 Nathan
> +1 Dmitri
> +1 Matteo
> >
> >  > 3. Git commit messages as important as PR description.
> >  >
> >  > > Git commit messages are as important as PR descriptions. These
> >  > > provide in-code descriptions of each change and are git interface
> >  > > independent.
> >  >
> >  > +1 Tomek
> >  > +1 Alin
> >  > +1 Tiago
> >  > +1 TimK
> >  > +1 Lup
> >  > +1 Filipe
> >  > +1 Sebastien
> >  +1 Nathan
> +1 Dmitri
> +1 Matteo
> >
> >
> >  > 4. Proper description details requirements.
> >  >
> >  > > Proper description of change is mandatory. Description must contain
> >  > > explanation on what proposed change do, why it is necessary, what if
> >  > > fixes, and how things are changed / fixed / updated, what is the
> >  > > impact (build / runtime / api / what area), how it was tested. Local
> >  > > code build and real world hardware runtime test logs must be
> provided
> >  > > (for code related changes). Description can be single..several
> >  > > sentences long or bullet points but enough for anyone to understand
> >  > > change goals and details. Usually it will look similar for PR and
> git
> >  > > commit  message.
> >  >
> >  > +1 Tomek ( However I understand this PR template is separate from the
> >  > rule
> >  > and will be updated / voted independently.)
> >  > +1 Alin
> >  > +1 Tiago
> >  > +1 TimK (better to have the 'Motivation/Background' section, while
> >  > simplifying the rest. In my view, commit messages should address the
> >  > 'What', whereas PR documents should elaborate more on the 'Why'.)
> >  > +1 Lup
> >  > +1 Filipe
> >  > +1 Sebastien
> >  +1 Nathan
> +1 Dmitri
>
+1 Matteo

> >
> >  > 6. Git commit message must adhere to description requirements.
> >  >
> >  > > Proper GIT COMMIT message according to template is mandatory, or
> >  > > change is rejected until fixed / updates. Build and runtime logs are
> >  > > optional here if these are too long and already provided in PR.
> >  >
> >  > > Git commit message consists of:
> >  > > 1. Topic with functional name prefix, ":" mark, and short
> >  > > self-explanatory context.
> >  > > 2. Blank line
> >  > > 3. Description on what is changed, how, and why. May use several
> >  > > lines, short sentences, or bullet points.
> >  > > 4. Blank line.
> >  > > 5. Signature (created with `git commit -s`).
> >  >
> >  > > GIT COMMIT TEMPLATE / EXAMPLE:
> >  >
> >  > > net/can: Add g_ prefix to can_dlc_to_len and len_to_can_dlc.
> >  >
> >  > > Add g_ prefix to can_dlc_to_len and len_to_can_dlc to
> >  > > follow NuttX coding style conventions for global symbols,
> >  > > improving code readability and maintainability.
> >  > > * you can also use bullet points.
> >  > > * to note different thing briefly.
> >  >
> >  > +1 Tomek
> >  > +1 Alin
> >  > +1 Tiago
> >  > +1 TimK (Regarding the commit message header, I recommend using the
> >  > style adopted by the Angular Community, which is widely accepted.
> >  > <type>(<scope>): <short summary>)
> >  > +1 Lup
> >  > +1 Filipe (let's make sure we have example for this on docs and also
> on PR bot)
> >  > +1 Sebastien
> >  +1 Nathan
> +1 Dmitri
> >  +1 Matteo
> >
> >  > 7. Git commit message mandatory fields (topic, desctiption,
> signature).
> >  >
> >  > > Each git commit message must consist of topic, description, and
> >  > > signature (git commit -s), as presented in GIT COMMIT TEMPLATE,
> which
> >  > > are mandatory, or change is auto-rejected until fixed / updated.
> >  >
> >  > +1 Tomek
> >  > +1 Alin
> >  > +1 Tiago
> >  > +1 TimK
> >  > +1 Lup
> >  > +1 Filipe
> >  > +1 Sebastien
> >  +1 Nathan
> +1 Dmitro
> >  +1 Matteo
> >
> >  > 8. Changes must come with documentation.
> >  >
> >  > > Changes must come with with documentation update where applicable.
> For
> >  > > maintenance reasons code and documentation should be split into two
> >  > > separate PR with the same name marked [1/2 CODE] for code and [2/2
> >  > > DOC] for documentation. If change presents new functionality a
> >  > > documentation must be provided along with the code (not in future).
> If
> >  > > change requires documentation  update it must be contained along
> with
> >  > > the code (not in future). Successful documentation build log
> shortcut
> >  > > is welcome.
> >  >
> >  > > See: https://github.com/apache/nuttx/blob/master/INVIOLABLES.md
> >  >
> >  > 0: Tomek (Having documentation in a single PR (same pr separate
> commit)
> >  > is
> >  > easier to perform and review, otherwise we may get out of code/doc
> >  > sync? But if this is the only way and better for release manager then
> >  > okay.)
> >  > 0 Alin (Having documentation in a single PR (same pr separate commit)
> >  > is
> >  > easier to perform and review. The release process can use it)
> >  > 0 Tiago. Yes, documentation should be provided, but I don't see any
> >  > reason
> >  > for
> >  > splitting it into two different PRs. We keep our documentation in the
> >  > same
> >  > repository and - for the sake of traceability - it should be updated
> in
> >  > the
> >  > same PR (separate commit, not PR). We should make reviewers' and
> >  > committers
> >  > lives easier. Alternative writing would be:
> >  > "*Changes must come with a documentation update where applicable. For*
> >  > *maintenance reasons, code and documentation should be split into two*
> >  > *commits in the same PR. If change presents new functionality,
> >  > documentation*
> >  > *must be provided along with the code (not in the future). If change*
> >  > *requires a documentation update it must be contained along with the
> >  > code*
> >  > *(not in the future).*"
> >  > -1 TimK (I'd like say "should" instead of "must".)
> >  > 0 Lup. It depends? Smaller PRs can include a Doc Commit. When I add a
> new
> >  > Arch + Board (e.g. StarPro64), the PR will include a link to my
> article
> >  > that explains the new code. Then I prepare another PR for the User
> Docs.
> >  > -1 Filipe (Don't see any problem in having documentation on same PR,
> in fact I think it makes things easier.)
> >  > -1 separate commits in same pr
> >  -1 Nathan: Similar to others' comments. Also, could be same PR but
> >  separate commits?
> 0 Dmitri
>
-1 Matteo: Documentation should be required, in the same PR as the change.
No separate PRs.

> >
> >  > 9. Zero trust approach to user testing.
> >  >
> >  > > We implement zero trust approach to user provided testing. It is the
> >  > > commit author duty to provide real world hardware build and runtime
> >  > > logs for at least one device. Remember that any code change may
> break
> >  > > things for others, please avoid that.
> >  >
> >  > > See: https://github.com/apache/nuttx/blob/master/INVIOLABLES.md
> >  >
> >  > +1 Tomek
> >  > +1 Alin
> >  > +1 Tiago
> >  > +1 TimK
> >  > +1 Lup
> >  > +1 Filipe
> >  > +1 Sebastien
> >  +1 Nathan
> +1 Dmitri
>
+1 Matteo

> >
> >
> >  > 10. Breaking changes not welcome.
> >  >
> >  > > Breaking changes are not welcome. We do not "break by design". When
> >  > > unavoidable, breaking changes need prior discussion and agreement of
> >  > > the community (see Breaking Changes handling rule). This is anything
> >  > > that alters Build / Kernel / Architecture / API, alters both nuttx
> >  >
> >  > and
> >  >
> >  > > nuttx-apps repo at the same time, breaks build/runtime/api for
> single
> >  > > or many boards/architectures/applications, breaks
> self-compatibility,
> >  > > breaks build/runtime compatibility with existing release code
> >  > > (packages) both for nuttx and nuttx-apps, etc. Because thousands of
> >  > > users / companies and their projects / products depend on NuttX
> code,
> >  > > we strongly prefer self-compatibility and long-term maintenance over
> >  > > "change is good" ideologies. Any code change may impact other users
> >  > > and their business, please keep that in mind.
> >  >
> >  > > See: https://github.com/apache/nuttx/blob/master/INVIOLABLES.md
> >  >
> >  > +1 Tomek
> >  > +1 Alin
> >  > +1 Tiago
> >  > +1 TimK
> >  > +1 Lup
> >  > +1 Filipe
> >  > +1 Sebastien
> >  +1 Nathan
> +1 Dmitri
>
0 Matteo

> >
> >
> >  > 11. Respect long term maintenance and self-compatibility
> >  >
> >  > > We respect long term maintenance and self-compatibility is our
> >  > > ultimate goal. Alternative solutions and non-invasive approaches are
> >  > > preferred that offers user a choice and compatibility. Breaking
> >  > > changes are avoided, and planned towards next major release, see
> >  > > Breaking Changes rule.
> >  > > Experimental code that does not impact overall project
> >  > > self-compatibility in terms of Breaking Changes should be clearly
> >  > > marked [EXPERIMENTAL].
> >  >
> >  > > See: https://github.com/apache/nuttx/blob/master/INVIOLABLES.md
> >  >
> >  > +1 Tomek
> >  > +1 Alin
> >  > +1 Tiago
> >  > +1 TimK
> >  > +1 Lup
> >  > +1 Filipe
> >  > +1 Sebastien
> >  +1 Nathan
> +1 Dmitri
>
+1 Matteo

> >
> >
> >  > 13. Breaking changes build and runtime test logs are mandatory.
> >  >
> >  > > Breaking changes are special case where build and runtime test logs
> >  > > (i.e. apps/ostest) from more than one different  architecture is
> >  > > **mandatory** . QEmu tests does not count here as it passed breaking
> >  > > change that did not work on a real hardware. Community support is
> >  > > desired.
> >  >
> >  > > See: https://github.com/apache/nuttx/blob/master/INVIOLABLES.md
> >  >
> >  > +1 Tomek
> >  > +1 Alin
> >  > +1 Tiago
> >  > +1 TimK
> >  > +1 Lup
> >  > +1 Filipe
> >  > +1 Sebastien also some mandatory documentation on how to fix the
> build after the breaking change. rust has cargo fix. Python has 2to3.
> >  +1 Nathan
> +1 Dmitri
>
+1 Matteo

> >
> >
> >  > 14. Minimum code reviews.
> >  >
> >  > > Each PR requires at least 2 independent positive reviews, except
> >  > > Breaking Changes where at least 4 positive independent organizations
> >  > > reviews, are required before merge to the upstream.
> >  >
> >  > +1 Tomek( Although I think 3 should be default to increase cross-
> >  > checks.)
> >  > +1 Alin (minimum 3)
> >  > +1 Tiago. I still prefer Nathan's proposal of creating "areas".
> >  > Documentation and
> >  > experimental features shouldn't require 2 reviewers. For the sake of
> >  > simplicity, this rule works.
> >  > Even 2 reviewers for documentation and experimental features are too
> >  > restrictive.
> >  > -1 TimK ("at least 2 independent positive reviews", may be too high
> bar
> >  > we set.)
> >  > +1 Lup
> >  > +1 Filipe
> >  > +1 Sebastien
> >  0 Nathan. Tiago summarized my proposal above. However, I am OK with
> >  whatever the community decides on this.
> 0 Dmitri
>
+1 Matteo: Agree that pure documentation changes can have 1 reviewer

> >
> >
> >  > 15. Reviews independence.
> >  >
> >  > > PR Reviews should come from independent organizations. Each PMC
> >  > > Member, Committer, and Reviewer must report up-to-date Affiliation
> >  >
> >  > for
> >  >
> >  > > clear identification. When code comes from the same organization as
> >  > > positive review, then at least one independent review is necessary
> >  > > (except Breaking Changes). Self review is not allowed.
> >  >
> >  > > See: https://github.com/apache/nuttx/blob/master/INVIOLABLES.md
> >  >
> >  > +1 Tomek
> >  > +1 Alin
> >  > +1 Tiago
> >  > +1 TimK
> >  > +1 Lup
> >  > +1 Filipe
> >  > -1 Sebastien No. Reviewers must not be from same organization as
> coder. Otherwise there is no independence.
> >  ?? Nathan: Reviews from same organization are nice to have, but
> >  shouldn't count toward number of reviews needed.
> 0 Dmitri
>
+1 Matteo

> >
> >
> >  > 16. Self company commit/review/merge not allowed *
> >  >
> >  > > Single company commit, review, merge is not allowed. Each PMC
> Member,
> >  > > Committer, and Reviewer must report up-to-date Affiliation for clear
> >  > > identification.
> >  >
> >  > > See: https://github.com/apache/nuttx/blob/master/INVIOLABLES.md
> >  >
> >  > +1 Tomek
> >  > +1 Alin
> >  > +1 Tiago
> >  > +1 TimK
> >  > +1 Lup
> >  > +1 Filipe
> >  > 0 Sebastien
> >  +1 Nathan
> 0 Dmitri
> >  +1 Matteo
> >
> >  > 17. Merge rules.
> >  >
> >  > > Each change **must** be provided as PR that undergoes independent
> >  > > review process. Self committed code merge with or without review is
> >  > > not allowed, just as direct push to master, and will be punished.
> >  >
> >  > +1 Tomek
> >  > +1 Alin
> >  > +1 Tiago
> >  > +1 TimK (However, I would prefer the maintainer to perform a 'squash
> >  > merge' by default. In the case of a significant or breaking PR change,
> >  > we could consider a 'rebase merge'.
> >  > On a second thought, why does GitHub provide the 'Squash' option?)
> >  > +1 Lup
> >  > +1 Filipe
> >  > +1 Sebastien
> >  +1 Nathan. We should guard our master branches from direct pushes. See
> https://github.com/apache/infrastructure-asfyaml?tab=readme-ov-file#branchpro
> +1 Dmitri
>
+1 Matteo

> >
> >
> >  > 18. PR as small as possible .
> >  >
> >  > > 1. Pull Requests should be as small as possible and focused on only
> >  > > one functional change.
> >  > > 2. Different functional changes must be provided in separate Pull
> >  > Requests.
> >  > > 3. PR may contain several commits but every single commit included
> >  > > must not break break overall build, runtime, and compatibility,
> >  > > especially for other  components.
> >  > > 4. PR that breaks build or runtime anyhow is considered a Breaking
> >  > > Change, is not welcome and requires special considerations (see
> >  > > Breaking Changes rule).
> >  > > 5. PR that introduces a new feature must have Documentation included
> >  > > in separate commit.
> >  > > 6. When changes for dedicated function must be bundled together in
> >  > > order to maintain functionality and self-compatibility, exception
> can
> >  > > be made, and this must be clearly stated there is no other way and
> >  > > this is not a Breaking Change.
> >  >
> >  > +1 Tomek
> >  > +1 Alin
> >  > +1 Tiago
> >  > +1 TimK
> >  > +1 Lup
> >  > +1 Filipe (item 5 clashes with voting item 8 discussion) Sebastien:
> I'm ok with a single PR that contains separate commits for code and doc.
> >  > +1 Sebastien
> >  +1 Nathan
> +1 Dmitri
>
-1 Matteo: #5 PR with new features should not require docs in a separate
commit. It's difficult to make changes based on review and still keep the
two commits (code and docs) separate when squashing. One commit for both
should be fine.

> >
> >
> >  > 19. Lazy Consensus.
> >  >
> >  > > A PR may be *eligible* to be merged under the concept of *Lazy
> >  > > consensus* with the following conditions:
> >  > > 1. It affects only a single chip or board (no kernel/libs/upper-half
> >  > > drivers etc).
> >  > > 2. It implements a new feature (or app) that doesn't introduce any
> >  > > breaking changes or backward incompatibility.
> >  > > 3. It didn't get the minimum reviewers after two weeks.
> >  > > 4. At least one independent reviewer reviewed it.
> >  > > 5. It adheres to all other Contributing Guide requirements
> >  > conditions.
> >  > > The PR's author should:
> >  > > 1. After a week without any reviewers, send an e-mail to the mailing
> >  > > list asking for more people to review it.
> >  > > 2. Explain why the PR can't be split into smaller PRs (if
> >  > applicable).
> >  > > 3. After two weeks ask for the independent reviewer to merge if
> there
> >  > > are no other reviews. The independent reviewer is responsible for
> >  > > checking if the PR matches the *Lazy Consensus* conditions before
> >  > > merging it.
> >  >
> >  > -1: Tomek (Considering we are leaving 2 reviewers as is (increased to
> 4
> >  > for
> >  > breaking changes), lazy consensus may undermine quality, I think this
> >  > point is not required anymore :-))
> >  > -1 Alin (we risk critical bugs or harmful code to slip as lazy
> >  > consensus )
> >  > -1 Tiago. For the sake of simplicity, let's adopt rule 14 only and
> >  > re-evaluate in
> >  > the future.
> >  > 0 TimK
> >  > 0 Lup. I don't think this is priority right now? We can tweak the
> guideline
> >  > later.
> >  > 0 Filipe
> >  > -1 Sebastien NERVER EVER let untrusted and unverified code in without
> a review even if the process is slowed down. If developer WANTS his code
> merged the burden is on them to get other reviewers involved so merge
> becomes possible.
> >  -1 Nathan. I think I suggested Lazy Consensus initially, but after
> >  reading the discussions and comments about this, I think it is better
> >  to let PR authors to request reviews and keep their PR alive.
> 0 Dmitri
>
-1 Matteo

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