Hi,

Voting again (my previous e-mail was discarded in the voting process):

1. Contributing Guidelines with hints for Reviewers.
> We are adding additional section for Reviewers to Contributing
> Guidelines in order to provide checklist and complementary set of
> rules that should filter out breaking code as much as possible also on
> our side.


+1 Tomek
+1 Alin
+1 Tiago

2. PR and GIT COMMITS must adhere to Contributing Guidelines or rejected.
> Each PR and GIT COMMIT **must** adhere to requirements presented in
> Contributing Guidelines or will be auto-rejected until fixed /
> updated. Both code authors and reviewers/committers must follow the
> rules. Special cases are defined in a separate dedicated rules.


+1 Tomek
+1 Alin
+1 Tiago

3. Git commit messages as important as PR description.
> Git commit messages are as important as PR descriptions. These
> provide in-code descriptions of each change and are git interface
> independent.


+1 Tomek
+1 Alin
+1 Tiago

4. Proper description details requirements.
> Proper description of change is mandatory. Description must contain
> explanation on what proposed change do, why it is necessary, what if
> fixes, and how things are changed / fixed / updated, what is the
> impact (build / runtime / api / what area), how it was tested. Local
> code build and real world hardware runtime test logs must be provided
> (for code related changes). Description can be single..several
> sentences long or bullet points but enough for anyone to understand
> change goals and details. Usually it will look similar for PR and git
> commit  message.


+1 Tomek ( However I understand this PR template is separate from the rule
and will be updated / voted independently.)
+1 Alin
+1 Tiago

6. Git commit message must adhere to description requirements.
> Proper GIT COMMIT message according to template is mandatory, or
> change is rejected until fixed / updates. Build and runtime logs are
> optional here if these are too long and already provided in PR.



Git commit message consists of:

1. Topic with functional name prefix, ":" mark, and short
> self-explanatory context.
> 2. Blank line
> 3. Description on what is changed, how, and why. May use several
> lines, short sentences, or bullet points.
> 4. Blank line.
> 5. Signature (created with `git commit -s`).


> GIT COMMIT TEMPLATE / EXAMPLE:


> net/can: Add g_ prefix to can_dlc_to_len and len_to_can_dlc.


> Add g_ prefix to can_dlc_to_len and len_to_can_dlc to
> follow NuttX coding style conventions for global symbols,
> improving code readability and maintainability.
> * you can also use bullet points.
> * to note different thing briefly.


+1 Tomek
+1 Alin
+1 Tiago

7. Git commit message mandatory fields (topic, desctiption, signature).
> Each git commit message must consist of topic, description, and
> signature (git commit -s), as presented in GIT COMMIT TEMPLATE, which
> are mandatory, or change is auto-rejected until fixed / updated.


+1 Tomek
+1 Alin
+1 Tiago

8. Changes must come with documentation.
> Changes must come with with documentation update where applicable. For
> maintenance reasons code and documentation should be split into two
> separate PR with the same name marked [1/2 CODE] for code and [2/2
> DOC] for documentation. If change presents new functionality a
> documentation must be provided along with the code (not in future). If
> change requires documentation  update it must be contained along with
> the code (not in future). Successful documentation build log shortcut
> is welcome.


> See: https://github.com/apache/nuttx/blob/master/INVIOLABLES.md


0: Tomek (Having documentation in a single PR (same pr separate commit) is
easier to perform and review, otherwise we may get out of code/doc
sync? But if this is the only way and better for release manager then
okay.)
0 Alin (Having documentation in a single PR (same pr separate commit) is
easier to perform and review. The release process can use it)
0 Tiago. Yes, documentation should be provided, but I don't see any reason
for
splitting it into two different PRs. We keep our documentation in the same
repository and - for the sake of traceability - it should be updated in the
same PR (separate commit, not PR). We should make reviewers' and committers
lives easier. Alternative writing would be:
"*Changes must come with a documentation update where applicable. For*
*maintenance reasons, code and documentation should be split into two*
*commits in the same PR. If change presents new functionality,
documentation*
*must be provided along with the code (not in the future). If change*
*requires a documentation update it must be contained along with the code*
*(not in the future).*"

9. Zero trust approach to user testing.
> We implement zero trust approach to user provided testing. It is the
> commit author duty to provide real world hardware build and runtime
> logs for at least one device. Remember that any code change may break
> things for others, please avoid that.


> See: https://github.com/apache/nuttx/blob/master/INVIOLABLES.md


+1 Tomek
+1 Alin
+1 Tiago

10. Breaking changes not welcome.
> Breaking changes are not welcome. We do not "break by design". When
> unavoidable, breaking changes need prior discussion and agreement of
> the community (see Breaking Changes handling rule). This is anything
> that alters Build / Kernel / Architecture / API, alters both nuttx and
> nuttx-apps repo at the same time, breaks build/runtime/api for single
> or many boards/architectures/applications, breaks self-compatibility,
> breaks build/runtime compatibility with existing release code
> (packages) both for nuttx and nuttx-apps, etc. Because thousands of
> users / companies and their projects / products depend on NuttX code,
> we strongly prefer self-compatibility and long-term maintenance over
> "change is good" ideologies. Any code change may impact other users
> and their business, please keep that in mind.


> See: https://github.com/apache/nuttx/blob/master/INVIOLABLES.md


+1 Tomek
+1 Alin
+1 Tiago

11. Respect long term maintenance and self-compatibility
> We respect long term maintenance and self-compatibility is our
> ultimate goal. Alternative solutions and non-invasive approaches are
> preferred that offers user a choice and compatibility. Breaking
> changes are avoided, and planned towards next major release, see
> Breaking Changes rule.
> Experimental code that does not impact overall project
> self-compatibility in terms of Breaking Changes should be clearly
> marked [EXPERIMENTAL].


> See: https://github.com/apache/nuttx/blob/master/INVIOLABLES.md


+1 Tomek
+1 Alin
+1 Tiago

13. Breaking changes build and runtime test logs are mandatory.
> Breaking changes are special case where build and runtime test logs
> (i.e. apps/ostest) from more than one different  architecture is
> **mandatory** . QEmu tests does not count here as it passed breaking
> change that did not work on a real hardware. Community support is
> desired.


> See: https://github.com/apache/nuttx/blob/master/INVIOLABLES.md


+1 Tomek
+1 Alin
+1 Tiago

14. Minimum code reviews.
> Each PR requires at least 2 independent positive reviews, except
> Breaking Changes where at least 4 positive independent organizations
> reviews, are required before merge to the upstream.


+1 Tomek( Although I think 3 should be default to increase cross-checks.)
+1 Alin (minimum 3)
+1 Tiago. I still prefer Nathan's proposal of creating "areas".
Documentation and
experimental features shouldn't require 2 reviewers. For the sake of
simplicity, this rule works.
Even 2 reviewers for documentation and experimental features are too
restrictive.

15. Reviews independence.
> PR Reviews should come from independent organizations. Each PMC
> Member, Committer, and Reviewer must report up-to-date Affiliation for
> clear identification. When code comes from the same organization as
> positive review, then at least one independent review is necessary
> (except Breaking Changes). Self review is not allowed.


> See: https://github.com/apache/nuttx/blob/master/INVIOLABLES.md


+1 Tomek
+1 Alin
+1 Tiago

16. Self company commit/review/merge not allowed *
> Single company commit, review, merge is not allowed. Each PMC Member,
> Committer, and Reviewer must report up-to-date Affiliation for clear
> identification.


> See: https://github.com/apache/nuttx/blob/master/INVIOLABLES.md


+1 Tomek
+1 Alin
+1 Tiago

17. Merge rules.
> Each change **must** be provided as PR that undergoes independent
> review process. Self committed code merge with or without review is
> not allowed, just as direct push to master, and will be punished.


+1 Tomek
+1 Alin
+1 Tiago

18. PR as small as possible .
> 1. Pull Requests should be as small as possible and focused on only
> one functional change.
> 2. Different functional changes must be provided in separate Pull Requests.
> 3. PR may contain several commits but every single commit included
> must not break break overall build, runtime, and compatibility,
> especially for other  components.
> 4. PR that breaks build or runtime anyhow is considered a Breaking
> Change, is not welcome and requires special considerations (see
> Breaking Changes rule).
> 5. PR that introduces a new feature must have Documentation included
> in separate commit.
> 6. When changes for dedicated function must be bundled together in
> order to maintain functionality and self-compatibility, exception can
> be made, and this must be clearly stated there is no other way and
> this is not a Breaking Change.


+1 Tomek
+1 Alin
+1 Tiago

19. Lazy Consensus.
> A PR may be *eligible* to be merged under the concept of *Lazy
> consensus* with the following conditions:
> 1. It affects only a single chip or board (no kernel/libs/upper-half
> drivers etc).
> 2. It implements a new feature (or app) that doesn't introduce any
> breaking changes or backward incompatibility.
> 3. It didn't get the minimum reviewers after two weeks.
> 4. At least one independent reviewer reviewed it.
> 5. It adheres to all other Contributing Guide requirements conditions.


> The PR's author should:
> 1. After a week without any reviewers, send an e-mail to the mailing
> list asking for more people to review it.
> 2. Explain why the PR can't be split into smaller PRs (if applicable).
> 3. After two weeks ask for the independent reviewer to merge if there
> are no other reviews. The independent reviewer is responsible for
> checking if the PR matches the *Lazy Consensus* conditions before
> merging it.


-1: Tomek (Considering we are leaving 2 reviewers as is (increased to 4 for
breaking changes), lazy consensus may undermine quality, I think this
point is not required anymore :-))
-1 Alin (we risk critical bugs or harmful code to slip as lazy consensus )
-1 Tiago. For the sake of simplicity, let's adopt rule 14 only and
re-evaluate in
the future.

Em seg., 24 de fev. de 2025 às 11:42, Alin Jerpelea <jerpe...@gmail.com>
escreveu:

> I am sorry for the confusion
> Please fill in your answers to this email followed by the voter's name to
> avoid future confusion
>
>
> 1. Contributing Guidelines with hints for Reviewers.
> We are adding additional section for Reviewers to Contributing
> Guidelines in order to provide checklist and complementary set of
> rules that should filter out breaking code as much as possible also on
> our side.
>
> +1 Tomek
> +1 Alin
>
> 2. PR and GIT COMMITS must adhere to Contributing Guidelines or rejected.
> Each PR and GIT COMMIT **must** adhere to requirements presented in
> Contributing Guidelines or will be auto-rejected until fixed /
> updated. Both code authors and reviewers/committers must follow the
> rules. Special cases are defined in a separate dedicated rules.
>
> +1 Tomek
> +1 Alin
>
> 3. Git commit messages as important as PR description.
> Git commit messages are as important as PR descriptions. These
> provide in-code descriptions of each change and are git interface
> independent.
>
> +1 Tomek
> +1 Alin
>
> 4. Proper description details requirements.
> Proper description of change is mandatory. Description must contain
> explanation on what proposed change do, why it is necessary, what if
> fixes, and how things are changed / fixed / updated, what is the
> impact (build / runtime / api / what area), how it was tested. Local
> code build and real world hardware runtime test logs must be provided
> (for code related changes). Description can be single..several
> sentences long or bullet points but enough for anyone to understand
> change goals and details. Usually it will look similar for PR and git
> commit  message.
>
> +1 Tomek ( However I understand this PR template is separate from the rule
> and will be updated / voted independently.)
> +1 Alin
>
> 6. Git commit message must adhere to description requirements.
> Proper GIT COMMIT message according to template is mandatory, or
> change is rejected until fixed / updates. Build and runtime logs are
> optional here if these are too long and already provided in PR.
>
> Git commit message consists of:
> 1. Topic with functional name prefix, ":" mark, and short
> self-explanatory context.
> 2. Blank line
> 3. Description on what is changed, how, and why. May use several
> lines, short sentences, or bullet points.
> 4. Blank line.
> 5. Signature (created with `git commit -s`).
>
> GIT COMMIT TEMPLATE / EXAMPLE:
>
> net/can: Add g_ prefix to can_dlc_to_len and len_to_can_dlc.
>
> Add g_ prefix to can_dlc_to_len and len_to_can_dlc to
> follow NuttX coding style conventions for global symbols,
> improving code readability and maintainability.
> * you can also use bullet points.
> * to note different thing briefly.
>
> +1 Tomek
> +1 Alin
>
> 7. Git commit message mandatory fields (topic, desctiption, signature).
> Each git commit message must consist of topic, description, and
> signature (git commit -s), as presented in GIT COMMIT TEMPLATE, which
> are mandatory, or change is auto-rejected until fixed / updated.
>
> +1 Tomek
> +1 Alin
>
> 8. Changes must come with documentation.
> Changes must come with with documentation update where applicable. For
> maintenance reasons code and documentation should be split into two
> separate PR with the same name marked [1/2 CODE] for code and [2/2
> DOC] for documentation. If change presents new functionality a
> documentation must be provided along with the code (not in future). If
> change requires documentation  update it must be contained along with
> the code (not in future). Successful documentation build log shortcut
> is welcome.
>
> See: https://github.com/apache/nuttx/blob/master/INVIOLABLES.md
>
> 0: Tomek (Having documentation in a single PR (same pr separate commit) is
> easier to perform and review, otherwise we may get out of code/doc
> sync? But if this is the only way and better for release manager then
> okay.)
> 0 Alin (Having documentation in a single PR (same pr separate commit) is
> easier to perform and review. The release process can use it)
>
> 9. Zero trust approach to user testing.
> We implement zero trust approach to user provided testing. It is the
> commit author duty to provide real world hardware build and runtime
> logs for at least one device. Remember that any code change may break
> things for others, please avoid that.
>
> See: https://github.com/apache/nuttx/blob/master/INVIOLABLES.md
>
> +1 Tomek
> +1 Alin
>
> 10. Breaking changes not welcome.
> Breaking changes are not welcome. We do not "break by design". When
> unavoidable, breaking changes need prior discussion and agreement of
> the community (see Breaking Changes handling rule). This is anything
> that alters Build / Kernel / Architecture / API, alters both nuttx and
> nuttx-apps repo at the same time, breaks build/runtime/api for single
> or many boards/architectures/applications, breaks self-compatibility,
> breaks build/runtime compatibility with existing release code
> (packages) both for nuttx and nuttx-apps, etc. Because thousands of
> users / companies and their projects / products depend on NuttX code,
> we strongly prefer self-compatibility and long-term maintenance over
> "change is good" ideologies. Any code change may impact other users
> and their business, please keep that in mind.
>
> See: https://github.com/apache/nuttx/blob/master/INVIOLABLES.md
>
> +1 Tomek
> +1 Alin
>
> 11. Respect long term maintenance and self-compatibility
> We respect long term maintenance and self-compatibility is our
> ultimate goal. Alternative solutions and non-invasive approaches are
> preferred that offers user a choice and compatibility. Breaking
> changes are avoided, and planned towards next major release, see
> Breaking Changes rule.
> Experimental code that does not impact overall project
> self-compatibility in terms of Breaking Changes should be clearly
> marked [EXPERIMENTAL].
>
> See: https://github.com/apache/nuttx/blob/master/INVIOLABLES.md
>
> +1 Tomek
> +1 Alin
>
> 12. Breaking changes handling process.
> This rule complements "Breaking changes not welcome" rule. We avoid
> breaking changes unless absolutely necessary and unavoidable (i.e.
> security fix, broken code, etc), then special case considerations may
> apply:
> 1. First reviewer that recognizes a breaking change should block
> accidental merge with "Request Changes" mark and ask for discussion.
> 2. PR is marked as "Draft" to avoid accidental merge.
> 3. Detailed discussion should follow both in PR AND dev@ Mailing List.
> 4. Alternative non-breaking alternative solution is researched with
> help of the community.
> 5. Breaking change after discussion / updates is voted on the mailing
> list, requires at least 4 +1 binding votes and single -1 binding vote
> blocks the change (binding vote means PMC member).
> 6. Breaking changes **must** be verified on various different real
> world hardware architectures, build and runtime logs are
> **mandatory**,  help of the community is desired.
> 7. Breaking change requires at least 4 independent organizations
> positive PR reviews.
> 8. Change must be well documented (buid/runtime test logs, pr, git
> commit, documentation, release notes, etc).
> 9. Change must be clearly marked with [BREAKING] mark (pr, git commit,
> release notes, etc).
>
> See: https://github.com/apache/nuttx/blob/master/INVIOLABLES.md
>
> +1 Tomek
> +1 Alin
>
> 13. Breaking changes build and runtime test logs are mandatory.
> Breaking changes are special case where build and runtime test logs
> (i.e. apps/ostest) from more than one different  architecture is
> **mandatory** . QEmu tests does not count here as it passed breaking
> change that did not work on a real hardware. Community support is
> desired.
>
> See: https://github.com/apache/nuttx/blob/master/INVIOLABLES.md
>
> +1 Tomek
> +1 Alin
>
> 14. Minimum code reviews.
> Each PR requires at least 2 independent positive reviews, except
> Breaking Changes where at least 4 positive independent organizations
> reviews, are required before merge to the upstream.
>
> +1 Tomek( Although I think 3 should be default to increase cross-checks.)
> +1 Alin (minimum 3)
>
> 15. Reviews independence.
> PR Reviews should come from independent organizations. Each PMC
> Member, Committer, and Reviewer must report up-to-date Affiliation for
> clear identification. When code comes from the same organization as
> positive review, then at least one independent review is necessary
> (except Breaking Changes). Self review is not allowed.
>
> See: https://github.com/apache/nuttx/blob/master/INVIOLABLES.md
>
> +1 Tomek
> +1 Alin
>
> 16. Self company commit/review/merge not allowed *
> Single company commit, review, merge is not allowed. Each PMC Member,
> Committer, and Reviewer must report up-to-date Affiliation for clear
> identification.
>
> See: https://github.com/apache/nuttx/blob/master/INVIOLABLES.md
>
> +1 Tomek
> +1 Alin
>
> 17. Merge rules.
> Each change **must** be provided as PR that undergoes independent
> review process. Self committed code merge with or without review is
> not allowed, just as direct push to master, and will be punished.
>
> +1 Tomek
> +1 Alin
>
> 18. PR as small as possible .
> 1. Pull Requests should be as small as possible and focused on only
> one functional change.
> 2. Different functional changes must be provided in separate Pull Requests.
> 3. PR may contain several commits but every single commit included
> must not break break overall build, runtime, and compatibility,
> especially for other  components.
> 4. PR that breaks build or runtime anyhow is considered a Breaking
> Change, is not welcome and requires special considerations (see
> Breaking Changes rule).
> 5. PR that introduces a new feature must have Documentation included
> in separate commit.
> 6. When changes for dedicated function must be bundled together in
> order to maintain functionality and self-compatibility, exception can
> be made, and this must be clearly stated there is no other way and
> this is not a Breaking Change.
>
> +1 Tomek
> +1 Alin
>
> 19. Lazy Consensus.
> A PR may be *eligible* to be merged under the concept of *Lazy
> consensus* with the following conditions:
> 1. It affects only a single chip or board (no kernel/libs/upper-half
> drivers etc).
> 2. It implements a new feature (or app) that doesn't introduce any
> breaking changes or backward incompatibility.
> 3. It didn't get the minimum reviewers after two weeks.
> 4. At least one independent reviewer reviewed it.
> 5. It adheres to all other Contributing Guide requirements conditions.
>
> The PR's author should:
> 1. After a week without any reviewers, send an e-mail to the mailing
> list asking for more people to review it.
> 2. Explain why the PR can't be split into smaller PRs (if applicable).
> 3. After two weeks ask for the independent reviewer to merge if there
> are no other reviews. The independent reviewer is responsible for
> checking if the PR matches the *Lazy Consensus* conditions before
> merging it.
>
> -1: Tomek (Considering we are leaving 2 reviewers as is (increased to 4 for
> breaking changes), lazy consensus may undermine quality, I think this
> point is not required anymore :-))
> -1 Alin (we risk critical bugs or harmful code to slip as lazy consensus )
>

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