I can file that bug...

BTW, at least in my tests, the 2 minute delay didn't work, should i file 2 bugs?

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Deng, Ying An <ying.an.d...@intel.com> wrote:
> I agree.. dear Bill, could you file a bug on that? That should help improve 
> the user experience of Moblin.
>
> Thanks!
> Best Regards,
> DengYingAn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev-boun...@moblin.org [mailto:dev-boun...@moblin.org] On Behalf Of 
> Bill Filler
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 7:05 AM
> To: Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata
> Cc: dev@moblin.org
> Subject: Re: [Moblin Dev] Bluetooth panel - make device visible
>
> I'm all for Bluetooth just working automagically. However that is just
> not the case currently (in Moblin or gnome). To send files via Bluetooth
> a "knowledgable" user has to do the following three things, all from
> different UI's
> 1) use Moblin bluetooth applet to pair with other device
> 2) run bluetooth-properties UI to make their device discoverable
> (assuming most people won't meet the 2 minute requirement for
> discoverability which no one even knows about)
> 3) install/run gnome-user-share and run gnome-file-share-properties to
> configure file sharing/receiving files over Bluetooth
>
> Yikes. Try it. It's not at all intuitive. I agree with Leonardo -
> Moblin's Bluetooth UI could really improve matters. It should be the
> only place a user needs to go to configure these options. Perhaps an
> "Advanced.." button or tab that lets you toggle visibility and launch
> the file sharing dialog? A typical user is not going to be able to
> figure it out as it's currently implemented.
>
> Bill
>
> Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata wrote:
>>>> When you open the Bluetooth panel and Bluetooth is switched on I
>>>>
>>> believe the device automatically becomes visible for 2 minutes. We
>>> specifically didn't want to add a toggle to control this setting as it's
>>> too easy for users to get into a confusing state. However our Bluetooth
>>> experts told us that it would take up too much power to be visible the
>>> whole time that Bluetooth was on.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if it works like you said, at least didn't worked this
>>> way in my tests. But i guess this isn't a problem.
>>>
>>
>> If it doesn't work, this is a problem. Please open a bug and we'll fix
>> it as it's not performing to design.
>>
>>
>>> Think about this case, 2 guys want to share files using their
>>> bluetooths, both laptops use moblin as default system and when they
>>> activate their bluetooth, they cannot see each other. Maybe this
>>> function to make the device visible could be an "expert configuration
>>> function", not easy as a chekbox, and not hard as a command line. got
>>> my point?
>>>
>>
>> What I'm saying with the design above is that yes, if they both
>> activate their bluetooth - it should work 'automagically' without
>> anyone needing to care.
>>
>>
>>> I know this uses a lot of battery, but in some cases user wants to
>>> make their computer visible.
>>>
>>
>> In those cases, if they visit the Bluetooth panel or an active
>> Bluetooth context it should 'just work'. We spend a lot of time trying
>> to be clever so stuff 'just works' without exposing options that can
>> allow the user to shoot themselves in the foot.
>>
>> Nick
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