> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 5:16 PM, <ian.ly...@theingots.org> wrote: > >> > Op 9-10-2010 2:15, Bernhard Dippold schreef: >> >> It represents all community members and therefore it represents the >> >> community as a whole. >> > >> > The Community Council was elected to, and is supposed to, represent >> the >> > community. >> > >> > It does not necessarily follow that it represents the community. >> >> That gets us into democratic representation. Systems of democracy >> require >> free elections so that if the CC is not reflecting the community >> perspective it can be voted out and a new committee established. Most >> democratic systems have their flaws but mostly it's a matter of some >> accountability is better than none. One of the things that should be >> done >> > > The problem of imitating 'real life' in electronic life is that these > models > are forced and usually creates big issues. Remember BoB trying to imitate > a > human habitat?
I'm not sure what BoB is. Electronic life is real life. It's just a bunch of people sharing stuff using technology. Decisions and relationships are human, the technology just has the capability of influencing them eg falme wars :-) > However the human habitat is a bit odd when it comes to structures of > government, since governents are very anti-technology and very human prone > to errors we fail imitating a similar structure to rule our community and > that is our key issue. I think we are confusing government and governance here. Democracy is not simply related to national governments, clubs, societies and even businesses run on democratic lines. What we are talking about is democratic governance of the community - well a dictator could take over but probably the community wouldn't cooperate. This is to an extent the situation with Oracle. People can always vote with their feet (Or log off ;-) ) > Things get delayed, miss explained or missunderstand from humanerror, I > would think that these government models are not adecuated to our current > systems. We could automate decision making or interaction if we have > things > that help us to achieve this leaving most things to software as opposed to > human. Sure the mechanism can vary. But in the end democracy comes from the Greek demos - by the people and Krateo - rule. Exactly how that is implemented will vary. > > regards > > >> in the light of the new Foundation should be a review of the >> constitution >> and due process in consultation with the community with a vote on a new >> system of management with all members re-standing for election on that >> manifesto. This also raises the issue of who is eligible to vote. Indeed >> it raises the question of whether a FOSS project can be run >> democratically. I would like to think so but maybe I'm deluded :-). >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > Vriendelijke groet, >> > Simon Brouwer. >> > >> > | http://nl.openoffice.org | http://www.opentaal.org | >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org >> > >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org >> >> > > > -- > *Alexandro Colorado* > *OpenOffice.org* Español > http://es.openoffice.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org
