John McCreesh schreef:

On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 23:19 +0100, Steven Pauwels wrote:
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I think that if someone has a violent objection to the label that the community chooses by vote, he should start his own OOo distribution. It is completely respectless to the efforts put in by the art project, and the decission made by the marketing project members, to use another. This is one of the reasons people find it difficult to work for OOo marketing. For Gods sake... make up your minds... You vote but nevertheless we should use them all... this is contra-productive and completely demotivating.

It's not intended to be. We're an open-source project, not a monopoly
supplier - we can't say "You must put this 'Fred Computers Inc
recommends OpenOffice.org' logo on every advert or we'll cut you off our
preferred price plan"
I really think you do not grasp the basics of marketing. You look at MS and say, we can not do that... In I way I am very thankfull to MS for being so monopolistic and huge and... it makes people think about another way to do it. Or revolt as most of the Open Source community does. Stop comparing yourselves to what you do not believe in. Excelence is unique and does not need any comparison.

You could say:

the OOo community is proud to present a professional OEM logo you can put on your PC. To support our efforts in creating a uniform look for OOo, we kindly ask you te help out and use only this label. Thank you for supporting OOo by helping to create a uniform, recognisable look!

But then again you would have to start by supporting the efforts in the community... or trying to understand why it is important to have a uniform look.

Either your remark above is because you do not know any better, or it is deliberately counterproductive. I give you the benifit of the doubt here... Think you should stop knowing everything.

John... Take your co-leads responsability to actually lead.

We can only lead by the excellence of what we do. If we provide world
class artwork, why would anyone choose *not* to use it?
Because it is in peoples nature to want to do things themselves... rings a bell?

The art project just provided world class artwork and asked to vote about it because Bernhard and I thought that involvement is the best way to create a unity and you ignorantly strike all effort back to square one.

The OOo marketing project has capable members or volunteers... but is in urgent need of a capable lead.

Steven P.

John

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