I have changed the thread title. I have also copied to [email protected] since there are a lot of people that this could affect they should have an opportunity to debate this. For this reason I think that starting an incubator should be delayed until the topic has had time for proper discussion. I'm not saying that I am in favour of any particular outcome at this point, I just think the people involved in the current education project deserve more than a day's notice of a potentially significant change.
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 23:54 +0100, Sophie Gautier wrote: > Hi Ian, > Well, no gold or bronze for me, the topic is not here, but in what we > are going to share ie: pedagogy and material. My point is that you say that this is not part of the education project in marketing, I'm saying it always was. Its simply that with nowhere else for an education project it happened to be put under marketing. I believe we discussed that some months ago by private E-mail. > Usage of OOo in France, Switzerland or Canadian schools are not the > topic as the product is largely used (I can share numbers if needed but > I'm not very proud here as this is only usage). That is the strategy in providing a government recognised certification for participation. That is the essence of the concept of "Learning through Participation". My background is about pedagogy in education. > My only purpose is contributions from high school laboratory (that are > already here), e-learning or any documentation, tools produced by > schools and ministry of education about OOo. So why not let us all know about them and see about any translations that can be done to English. With the Wiki, it should be a lot easier to get these resources supported more widely. > And there is already a lot > : see Dmaths, Dscience, HistOOo, the EN/Apple initiative, > Thales/Polytechnique, etc... for known examples, that can be so useful > as a project and as a product. The thing is that if we didn't know about them we couldn't do too much about them. I don't recall any proposals to get these translated or to get them onto the schools pages or set up new repositories for them. If I missed that I apologise but unless people bring things to my attention I don't necessarily know they exist. In fact getting translations to English if these don't exist might well be something specialist language schools in English might be interested in and I have good connections in these. > >> I'll propose on saturday an education incubator project where accent > >> will be placed on sharing : tools, knowledge, participation... Part of > >> my work in France and Africa has been successful, and I really want to > >> bring it to the overall project. > >> Placing in at the same level as the [EMAIL PROTECTED] would really > >> confused > >> people and make them go away, just because the purpose is not the same. > >> Understand me right, this is not to underestimate the [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> project, the topics of these projects are simply different, and they are > >> both necessary. > > > > I think this needs a bit of thought. You might be right but if I was > > taking a zero based view my first thought would be that there should be > > a single education project. > > That's your point of view. I would have thought my point of view might be taken into account given that I'm the Education Lead - even if it is not an "official" project lead position. > From what I know a several pedagogic research > dpts are happy to participate to this enterprise and not in a marketing > based project. So should this not be brought up on the education list and discussed before rushing off to start a new project? The obvious solution is to move education from marketing to its own heading - the new acceptance of using Wikis makes this a lot easier - it was only under marketing by chance in the first place. If there had been an education project for OOo when I joined the community I would have been in that not marketing since my professional background is more education pedagogy. > >> So, as I said, my proposal for this incubator will come on Saturday, I > >> hope that all the pedagogy experts will join it and that we will achieve > >> a world share :) > > > > Where will the proposal take place? > > As I already said, as an incubator project. I meant were you intending to discuss it on a particular list? -- Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ZMS Ltd --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
