On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 23:36 -0600, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > AFAIK the education project was under marketing because Ian had problems > accessing the CVS.
Historically, when there was no education project I met Nick Richards who was then marketing lead and took him to a school where we had installed 120 station Linux thin client network running OOo. He suggested I join the marketing project, so I did. Since I have expertise in the area it was suggested I lead an Education subproject within marketingply because there was no existing education project. I did fill in the JCA etc but never got the tunnel thing to work and at the time just didn't have time to spend on something I didn't know how long would take to resolve. In addition I believe that a lot of the people who are interested in education would not be prepared to go through the JCA route to make contributions and I did not have time or expertise to do all the web site maintenance myself so not a great incentive to persevere with the CVS access etc. At that time it seemed that use of the SSH/CVS based website was the only thing acceptable. Now the use of Wikis changes all that. But its only been around about one week so Ild like a bit of time to get going :-) > But like many emails on the educ list, they always > complain because the education sectors is so deeply burried in the site. I think that is true but the more serious problem is that I would have had to become a webmaster for an education project and I haven't the time or the skills to do it. That is the main reason I have not suggested moving the education project to stand alone. I believe with the Wiki approach that changes and I did say earlier that I would do that when I got a work deadline for the 8th March out of the way. > > The aim of educ project here is to gain more schools and universities > > use OOo, not to make them contribute and share their tools and knowledge. > > I'll propose on saturday an education incubator project where accent > > will be placed on sharing : tools, knowledge, participation... > > I dont see anywhere on the site explicity mentioning that. And the > universities project is basically a list of univ using it. Read the schools pages! "Most schools are concerned about equality of opportunity for all students and to extend the range of learning contexts related to information technology. The OpenOffice.org community supports your school by providing the best office productivity tools available, free of licensing costs. We welcome you into a community where teachers and students can learn about the new software development models of the 21st Century and support each other by sharing free resources and ideas. The best way to learn is to take part!" This is the opening paragraph on the schools pages. A sort of mission statement. It has been there for a long time and the central meaning is not limited to marketing. Its about learning pedagogy for the 21st Century. Ok, this page at http://marketing.openoffice.org/education/schools/ might not be so easy to find so not everyone might have read it ;-) Otto was just as much about kids participating in an educationally useful exercise as it was about marketing although it does help marketing too. > > Part of my work in France and Africa has been successful, and I really > > want to bring it to the overall project. Nothing to stop this. Just say how you want it to be incorporated. If you want to set up a new Education Wiki, be my guest. We can then organise it and if the commitment is good, then propose moving the education project out of marketing to stand alone. > > Placing in at the same level as the [EMAIL PROTECTED] would really confused > > > > people and make them go away, just because the purpose is not the same. > > I think having 2 education projects will confuse people also. That would be my concern. Forking education into two streams would, I believe do more harm than good. -- Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ZMS Ltd --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
