Hello Daniel,
Daniel Carrera wrote:
Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
It depends on what you mean by "asking". If every step requires approval, and approval is almost impossible to obtain because you get wrapped up in endless discussion, then I think that's very bad. On the other hand, if you mean asking if anyone is currently working on a project like that, then absolutely.
I diagree with you on this point, Daniel. A FOSS project is a project releasing software whose source code and generally binaries are freely distributable, modifiable, reusable by anybody. Outside of that point, there is nothing telling us about being freewheeling and anarchistic. We're not a democracy and AFAIK we have rules, processes, leads, to-do lists, taks, etc....
We are also volunteers, and we are also interested in being efficient and productive. Look, I'm not suggesting anarchy, please read what I wrote. I'm talking about balance. I've said that there is a need for community involvement, coordination, and not duplicating an existing initative.
Look, even a company has to find this balance. A boss that tries to make every decision will kill the company. A good employer will allow the employees to take calculated risks and make their own decisions within certain parameters.
I'm not looking for setting approvals and clearances everywhere. I'm just saying that there are existing tasks, processes, and to-dos lists. That's all.
What we need to figure out is where we set those parameters. Where we draw the line. Do you see what I'm trying to say? I am confused by your note because you are acting like I'm proposing anarchy. I have made every effort, on each of my emails, to say that this is a matter of balance. That there are various considerations that push in opposite directions, and that either extreme would be very bad.
Do you acknowledge that? Do you agree that one has to find a middle point? On the one hand, we can't have anarchy. On the other, we can't require approval for every imaginable decision. We need something that maintains coordination and colaboration without paralyzing the project.
Yes? Do you agree with that?
The middle point is already set, Daniel. I agree with you here, but as I said, we have existing methods and processes that make easy for us to know where the middle point is. It should not be an argument either between both of us, either anywhere here.
We can argue about where to draw the line. But it's important that we agree that a line has to be drawn, and either extreme is bad.
No. The MP project has the competence and authority on anything pertaining to OOo marketing (unless stated otherwise).
This is demonstrably false. I've seen a lot of people and companies market OOo without going through MP. Look, the other day I told a friend that OOo was really good, and I gave her a CD. Was that wrong because I didn't ask permission here?
Come on, you know that this is encouraged by the MP project. You know that the MP has the authority to judge on marketing matters. Don't make me tell you that the MP has "foreseen" every case and every scenario. But we all need balance and coordination, as you have reckoned earlier. And as I've said earlier, we have found it. Years ago. An we know that when such a site is supposed to open one needs to act in coordination with and with respect to the MP goals and policies.
Best,
Charles.
You see what I mean about balance versus extremes?
Cheers, Daniel.
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