On Saturday 19 March 2005 04:15, Simon Phipps wrote: Hi Simon, nice to see you on this list. Sun sometimes gets beaten up on this list, and sometimes deserves it, but often not ALL of the bruises it receives. Heh. IMHO, if someone of your caliber from Sun cruised this list more frequently, it would be helpful both to OOo and to Sun.
There are lots of good Sun people on the list, but because they don't have the official evangelist status that you have, I sometimes get the feeling that they would like to speak more freely, but don't, because they are not sure if they will get into trouble from engaging in a debate on this list. If I understand it correctly, OOo recently lost a very very valuable community member, Diane Mackay, because of Sun recent biz dealings with Microsoft. Diane seems to have been bothered enough by the deal to have stopped participating in OOo. http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=47878 Without addressing that Microsoft deal in detail, it would be nice to have more frequent visits from execs like you to articulate Sun's position here on this list. I understand that Sun wants to coordinate its message, etc., but I or other folks outside Sun sometimes end up defending Sun's position, which is bad for a couple of reasons 1) It's nice to have personal input from Sun on this list; 2) I don't really know what the hell I'm talking about when it comes to Sun; 3) everyone knows I don't really the hell I'm talking about when it comes to Sun; 4) other folks on the list are more knowledgeable about Sun, but without a Sun exec, you still have the murkiness factor; 5) you are pretty good at getting points across, so why have me or someone else outside Sun try to be Simon Phipps; 6) Daniel Carrera and others are getting understandably grumpy about Sun looking like a brick wall. So thanks for being here, and it would be nice to have you here more often. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
