On Sun, 2005-02-20 at 22:24, Ian Laurenson wrote:

SNIP A lot of sensible stuff I agree with.
> > 
> > But what do you imagine the CMS to do?  
> 
> See my above discussion about my suggested responsibilities for
> facilitators (/liaisons/MarCons).
> 
> A facilitator in seconds should be able to set-up a new:
>  * discussion forum
>  * wiki
>  * IRC applet (i.e. accessing the web page is all that is required to
> join the discussion - no other software necessary)
>  * Calendar
>  * Place for sharing files

+1 - I think the lack of accessibility of the site to mere mortals is a
considerable problem, It would be possible to heave a core locked down
site with links to easier to access satellites. There is always going to
be a trade off between security and accessibility but the whole site
does not require the "Fort Knox" mentality.

> There are bound to be other CMS that can do this, but for an example
> that I have briefly used see http://moodle.org/

Promoting Moodle would also be good for Open Source which indirectly
benefits OOo.

> That is, the MarCons are effectively field agents.  I think having
> > clearer guidelines is a good idea.  I also think that we need, as John
> > suggests, to build up the MarCon group.  We also, you know, don't have
> > many organized regional user groups--perhaps now?
> > 
> I am happy to bounce ideas here for developing guidelines if no one else
> would like to do this. (I would prefer to spend my OOo time on
> developing addons and writing documentation to make it easier for others
> to do so as well).
> 
> > Agreed.  Charles and I had thought about regional efforts; I think again
> > the MarCons could be developed further in that fashion.  The key point,
> > again, is that there has to be communication--otherwise, there is
> > confusion. But that's obvious.
> 
> I suggest that once a suitable web platform that allows for the sort of
> autonomy that I have been recommending was available then the existing
> facilitators can advertise for and recruit more facilitators.
> 
> I would be happy to work with Graham Lauder for New Zealand.

Good choice of partner, but don't let him cut you up on the luge :-)

An interesting thing about the MarCon list is the number of countries
not represented. For example I have visited Serbia/Montenegro and Poland
as a result of interest in the INGOTs so there is definitely OOo
interest in these two countries yet no Marcon as far as I can tell for
either. I wonder if its simply that they don't know the job exists? If
so, thinking about making the web site more accessible in all respects
should be a high priority.

Regards
-- 
Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ZMS Ltd


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