I have taken the liberty of snipping and reorganising so that I hope
this reply follows a logical order to further this discussion.

On Sun, 2005-02-20 at 20:21, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:

> >Having a title as a facilitator gives recognition and responsibility. I
> >suggest the facilitator roles be annual and the people be elected.
> 
> I agree; is it better you think than "MarCon" ?

To me the language that we use shapes our attitudes. Although MarCon is
used elsewhere in a similar context to refer to marketing contact, I
personally don't like it as a label. To me to "Mar" something is to
damage it and to "Con" is to swindle.

Further I don't like the term "Marketing" for an OSS project. To me
"marketing" has a concept of them and us - we are the suppliers and they
are the consumers. But OSS isn't like that, as soon as an individual or
a company starts to evaluate OSS they become part of the community.

Thus I prefer the term "facilitator" (or possibly "liaison"), someone
who is going to help new community members to find their feet in this
new to them, large and daunting, but hopefully supportive and exciting
community.

To expand on my view of the role of facilitators (/liaisons/MarCons):
* To ensure that the website for the people that they wish to support is
appropriate. My concept of appropriate includes the following functions:
  * The web site is easy to find and navigate for someone looking.
  * Provides peer support for people in their sub community.
  * Can respond rapidly to suggested improvements.
  * Has sufficient flexibility, dynamism, and interaction that the
community feels that the web site belongs to them.
* To approach people/organisations to find out what they need in order
to be able to change to OOo, and to feed that information back into the
wider OOo community. Sometimes this role might be to suggest that the
organisation might like to put forward a financial incentive for their
particular requirements. For example a company that spends a million per
year on Microsoft licenses, but can't change to OOo because a vital
piece of functionality is missing. For the company to put forward say
$200,000 is a small risk to gain $800,000 in the first year and a
million for each year after that.
* Advertise for and directly approach people to be facilitators to fill
particular niches.

Thanks for the link to the page of MarCons.

As to the MarCons:
> <http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html>

I didn't know that this page existed. To me there needs to be a
prominent link to this page on the OOo home page. Rather than email
links to people I suggest that the links be to the "home" page for that
region.

This leads into another question:

At the moment--and I stress at the moment--that's not really feasible.
> More on this when I know more. I, along with many, have long wanted a
> CMS facility.  
> 
> But what do you imagine the CMS to do?  

See my above discussion about my suggested responsibilities for
facilitators (/liaisons/MarCons).

A facilitator in seconds should be able to set-up a new:
 * discussion forum
 * wiki
 * IRC applet (i.e. accessing the web page is all that is required to
join the discussion - no other software necessary)
 * Calendar
 * Place for sharing files

There are bound to be other CMS that can do this, but for an example
that I have briefly used see http://moodle.org/

That is, the MarCons are effectively field agents.  I think having
> clearer guidelines is a good idea.  I also think that we need, as John
> suggests, to build up the MarCon group.  We also, you know, don't have
> many organized regional user groups--perhaps now?
> 
I am happy to bounce ideas here for developing guidelines if no one else
would like to do this. (I would prefer to spend my OOo time on
developing addons and writing documentation to make it easier for others
to do so as well).

> Agreed.  Charles and I had thought about regional efforts; I think again
> the MarCons could be developed further in that fashion.  The key point,
> again, is that there has to be communication--otherwise, there is
> confusion. But that's obvious.

I suggest that once a suitable web platform that allows for the sort of
autonomy that I have been recommending was available then the existing
facilitators can advertise for and recruit more facilitators.

I would be happy to work with Graham Lauder for New Zealand.

Thanks, Ian Laurenson


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