Unless anyone has objections, I'm going to update the KIP to remove the
`Ignore` policy and make `None` as the default. I will also remove the `
default boolean useOverrides()` in the interface which was introduced for
the purpose of backward compatibility.

On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 3:27 PM Randall Hauch <rha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have also seen users include in connector configs the `producer.*` and
> `consumer.*` properties that should go into the worker configs. But those
> don't match, and the likelihood that someone is already using
> `producer.override.*` or `consumer.override.*` properties in their
> connector configs does seem pretty tiny.
>
> I'd be fine with removing the `Ignore` for backward compatibility. Still +1
> either way.
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 5:23 PM Magesh Nandakumar <mage...@confluent.io>
> wrote:
>
> > To add more details regarding the backward compatibility; I have
> generally
> > seen users trying to set "producer.request.timeout.ms
> > <http://producer.override.request.timeout.ms/>" in their connector
> config
> > under the assumption that it will get used and would never come back to
> > remove it. The initial intent of the KIP was to use the same prefix but
> > since that potentially collided with MM2 configs, we agreed to use a
> > different prefix "producer.override". With this context, I think the
> > likelihood of someone using this is very small and should generally not
> be
> > a problem.
> >
> > On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 3:15 PM Magesh Nandakumar <mage...@confluent.io>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Colin,
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot for the feedback.  As you said, the possibilities of
> someone
> > > having "producer.override.request.timeout.ms" in their connector
> config
> > > in AK 2.2 or lower is very slim. But the key thing is if in case,
> someone
> > > has it AK2.2 doesn't do anything with it and it silently ignores the
> > > configuration. If others think that it's not really a problem, then I'm
> > > fine with removing the complicated compatibility issue.
> > >
> > > I have explicitly called out the behavior when the exception is thrown.
> > >
> > > Let me know what you think.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Magesh
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 2:45 PM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Magesh,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the KIP.  It looks good overall.
> > >>
> > >> >    default boolean useOverrides() {
> > >> >        return true;
> > >> >    }
> > >>
> > >> Is this method really needed?  As I understand, nobody should have any
> > >> connector client config overrides set right now, since they don't do
> > >> anything right now.
> > >>
> > >> For example, you wouldn't expect a Kafka 2.2 installation to have "
> > >> producer.override.request.timeout.ms" set, since that doesn't do
> > >> anything in Kafka 2.2.  So is the option to ignore it in Kafka 2.3
> > really
> > >> necessary?
> > >>
> > >> Can you add some details about what happens if a
> > >> PolicyValidationException is thrown?  I'm assuming that we fail to
> > create
> > >> the new Connector, I'm not sure if that's completely spelled out
> > (unless I
> > >> missed it).
> > >>
> > >> best,
> > >> Colin
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, May 9, 2019, at 08:05, Rajini Sivaram wrote:
> > >> > Hi Magesh,
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks for the KIP, +1 (binding)
> > >> >
> > >> > Regards,
> > >> >
> > >> > Rajini
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 3:55 PM Randall Hauch <rha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Nice work, Magesh.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > +1 (binding)
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Randall
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 7:22 PM Magesh Nandakumar <
> > >> mage...@confluent.io>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Thanks a lot Chris. So far, the KIP has one non-binding vote and
> > I'm
> > >> > > still
> > >> > > > looking forward to the KIP to be voted by Friday's deadline.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 10:00 AM Chris Egerton <
> > chr...@confluent.io>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > Hi Magesh,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > This looks great! Very excited to see these changes finally
> > >> coming to
> > >> > > > > Connect.
> > >> > > > > +1 (non-binding)
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Cheers,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Chris
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 9:51 AM Magesh Nandakumar <
> > >> mage...@confluent.io
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Hi All,
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I would like to start a vote on
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-458%3A+Connector+Client+Config+Override+Policy
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > The discussion thread can be found here
> > >> > > > > > <
> > >> https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@kafka.apache.org/msg97124.html>.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Thanks,
> > >> > > > > > Magesh
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

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