Hi, because I have made some significant changes on this design, so I
want to reopen the discussion on this KIP:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/CgZPBQ

Thanks,
Yishun
On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 5:06 PM Yishun Guan <gyis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I see! Thanks!
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018, 4:35 PM Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It is not implemented, but should not be hard to do so (and again you do
>> NOT have to do that in this KIP, I'm bringing this up so that you can help
>> thinking about the process).
>>
>> Quoting from Colin's comment:
>>
>> "
>> The pattern is that you would try to send a request for more than one
>> group, and then you would get an UnsupportedVersionException (nothing would
>> be sent on the wire, this is purely internal to the code).
>> Then your code would handle the UVE by creating requests with an older
>> version that only had one group each.
>> "
>>
>>
>> Guozhang
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Yishun Guan <gyis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi, I am looking into AdminClient.scala and AdminClient.java, and also
>> > looking into ApiVersionRequest.java and ApiVersionResponse.java, but I
>> > don't see anywhere contains to logic of the one-to-one mapping from version
>> > to version, am i looking at the right place?
>> >
>> > On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 1:30 PM Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Regarding 3): Today we do not have this logic with the existing client,
>> > > because defer the decision about the version to use (we always assume
>> > that
>> > > an new versioned request need to be down-converted to a single old
>> > > versioned request: i.e. an one-to-one mapping), but in principle, we
>> > should
>> > > be able to modify the client make it work.
>> > >
>> > > Again this is not necessarily need to be included in this KIP, but I'd
>> > > recommend you to look into AdminClient implementations around the
>> > > ApiVersionRequest / Response and think about how that logic can be
>> > modified
>> > > in the follow-up PR of this KIP.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Guozhang
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Yishun Guan <gyis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > @Guozhang, thank you so much!
>> > > > 1. I agree, fixed.
>> > > > 2. Added.
>> > > > 3. I see, that is something that I haven't think about. How does Kafka
>> > > > handle other api's different version problem now? So we have a specific
>> > > > convertor that convect a new version request to a old version one for
>> > > each
>> > > > API (is this what the ApiVersionsRequest supposed to do, does it only
>> > > > handle the detection or it should handle the conversion too)? What will
>> > > be
>> > > > the consequence of not having such a transformer but the version is
>> > > > incompatible?
>> > > >
>> > > > Best,
>> > > > Yishun
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 11:27 AM Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hello Yishun,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks for the proposed KIP. I made a pass over the wiki and here are
>> > > > some
>> > > > > comments:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 1. "DESCRIBE_GROUPS_RESPONSE_MEMBER_V0", why we need to encode the
>> > full
>> > > > > schema for the "COORDINATOR_GROUPIDS_KEY_NAME" field? Note it
>> > includes
>> > > a
>> > > > > lot of fields such as member id that is not needed for this case. I
>> > > > think a
>> > > > > "new ArrayOf(String)" for the group ids should be sufficient.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 2. "schemaVersions" of the "FindCoordinatorRequest" needs to include
>> > > > > FIND_COORDINATOR_REQUEST_V3 as well.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 3. One thing you may need to consider is that, in the adminClient to
>> > > > handle
>> > > > > broker compatibility, how to transform a new (v3) request to a bunch
>> > of
>> > > > > (v2) requests if it detects the broker is still in old version and
>> > > hence
>> > > > > cannot support v3 request (this logic is already implemented via
>> > > > > ApiVersionsRequest in AdminClient, but may need to be extended to
>> > > handle
>> > > > > one-to-many mapping of different versions).
>> > > > >
>> > > > > This is not sth. that you need to implement under this KIP, but I'd
>> > > > > recommend you think about this earlier than later and see if it may
>> > > > affect
>> > > > > this proposal.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Guozhang
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Yishun Guan <gyis...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Hi, thank you Ted! I have addressed your comments:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > 1. Added more descriptions about later optimization.
>> > > > > > 2. Yes, I will implement the V3 later when this KIP gets accepted.
>> > > > > > 3. Fixed.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > > Yishun
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 3:32 PM Ted Yu <yuzhih...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > bq. this is the foundation of some later possible
>> > > > optimizations(enable
>> > > > > > > batching in *describeConsumerGroups ...*
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > *Can you say more why this change lays the foundation for the
>> > > future
>> > > > > > > optimizations ?*
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > *You mentioned **FIND_COORDINATOR_REQUEST_V3 in the wiki but I
>> > > don't
>> > > > > see
>> > > > > > it
>> > > > > > > in PR.*
>> > > > > > > *I assume you would add that later.*
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > *Please read your wiki and fix grammatical error such as the
>> > > > > following:*
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > bq. that need to be make
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Thanks
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 3:55 PM Yishun Guan <gyis...@gmail.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Hi all,
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > I would like to start a discussion on:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > KIP-347: Enable batching in FindCoordinatorRequest
>> > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/CgZPBQ
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Thanks @Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com> for his help and
>> > > > > patience!
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > > > > Yishun
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > -- Guozhang
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > -- Guozhang
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> -- Guozhang

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