Hi Vahid,

+1 wrt OffsetFetch.

The "Additional Food for Thought" mentions Heartbeat as a non-mutating action. I don't think that's true as the GroupCoordinator updates the latestHeartbeat field for the member and adds a new object to the heartbeatPurgatory, see completeAndScheduleNextHeartbeatExpiration() called from handleHeartbeat()


NB added dev mailing list back into CC as it seems to have been lost along the way.

Cheers,

MichaƂ


On 12/06/17 18:47, Vahid S Hashemian wrote:
Hi Colin,

Thanks for the feedback.

To be honest, I'm not sure either why Read was selected instead of Write
for mutating APIs in the initial design (I asked Ewen on the corresponding
JIRA and he seemed unsure too).
Perhaps someone who was involved in the design can clarify.

Thanks.
--Vahid




From:   Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org>
To:     us...@kafka.apache.org
Date:   06/12/2017 10:11 AM
Subject:        Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-163: Lower the Minimum Required ACL
Permission of OffsetFetch



Hi Vahid,

I think you make a valid point that the ACLs controlling group
operations are not very intuitive.

This is probably a dumb question, but why are we using Read for mutating
APIs?  Shouldn't that be Write?

The distinction between Describe and Read makes a lot of sense for
Topics.  A group isn't really something that you "read" from in the same
way as a topic, so it always felt kind of weird there.

best,
Colin


On Thu, Jun 8, 2017, at 11:29, Vahid S Hashemian wrote:
Hi all,

I'm resending my earlier note hoping it would spark some conversation
this
time around :)

Thanks.
--Vahid




From:   "Vahid S Hashemian" <vahidhashem...@us.ibm.com>
To:     dev <dev@kafka.apache.org>, "Kafka User"
<us...@kafka.apache.org>
Date:   05/30/2017 08:33 AM
Subject:        KIP-163: Lower the Minimum Required ACL Permission of
OffsetFetch



Hi,

I started a new KIP to improve the minimum required ACL permissions of
some of the APIs:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-163%3A+Lower+the+Minimum+Required+ACL+Permission+of+OffsetFetch

The KIP is to address KAFKA-4585.

Feedback and suggestions are welcome!

Thanks.
--Vahid











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