+1 On 2/10/17 9:09 AM, Eno Thereska wrote: > +1 (non-binding). > > > >> On 10 Feb 2017, at 13:40, Tom Crayford <tcrayf...@heroku.com> wrote: >> >> I'm +0 (non-binding) on this now. I think the proposal here adds quite a >> lot of complexity to Kafka, makes building client libraries much harder, >> and is going to confuse users a lot. I'm also worried about this feature >> being hard to implement, and/or testing not being rigorous enough - Aphyr's >> Jepsen series shows how hard this kind of functionality is to get right in >> real world environments in the face of network failures. Those tests take >> hundreds of person-hours to conduct and analyze, and I hope this community >> will put in similar time in stabilizing this tricky feature before it >> reaches a released version. >> >> However, exactly-once processing is very useful, and my non-binding >> reservations probably shouldn't hold the project back. >> >> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 7:50 AM, Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hello community, >>> >>> We have made a few changes based on the comments in this thread as well as >>> the DISCUSS thread. Summary of the changes can be found in the update >>> history (2017/02/03 and 2017/02/07) of the design doc: >>> >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/11Jqy_GjUGtdXJK94XGsEIK7CP1SnQGdp2eF >>> 0wSw9ra8/edit#heading=h.i8usz7jt7ms6 >>> >>> And details of the changes can be found here: >>> >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@kafka.apache.org/msg66069.html >>> >>> >>> We'd like to solicit another round of voting for 72 hours due to these >>> changes, and people who have voted before on this thread are welcome to >>> re-review and vote again. Thanks! >>> >>> >>> Guozhang >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Rajini Sivaram <rajinisiva...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> +1 (non-binding) >>>> >>>> (with additional authorization from Jason's note in the discussion >>> thread) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 1:10 AM, Apurva Mehta <apu...@confluent.io> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The wiki has been updated with a section on authorization, as well a >>>>> summary of the message format changes. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Jason Gustafson <ja...@confluent.io> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Tom, we'll update the wiki to reflect all the movement on the >>>>> design >>>>>> document. Did you have a specific concern with the new ACLs? >>>>>> >>>>>> -Jason >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 6:49 AM, Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk> >>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Tom, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That is a good point. During the discussion, it was agreed that >>>> changes >>>>>> to >>>>>>> public interfaces (message format, protocol, ACLs, etc.) would be >>>>> copied >>>>>> to >>>>>>> the wiki once the things had settled down, but it looks like that >>>>> hasn't >>>>>>> been done yet. I agree that it makes sense to do it before people >>>> vote >>>>> on >>>>>>> it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ismael >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Tom Crayford <tcrayf...@heroku.com >>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -1 (non-binding) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've been slow at keeping up with the KIP and the discussion >>>> thread. >>>>>> This >>>>>>>> is an exciting and quite complex new feature, which provides >>> great >>>>> new >>>>>>>> functionality. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There's a thing I noticed missing from the KIP that's present in >>>> the >>>>>>> google >>>>>>>> doc - the doc talks about ACLs for TransactionalId. If those are >>>>> going >>>>>> to >>>>>>>> land with the KIP, I think they should be included in the KIP >>>> itself, >>>>>> as >>>>>>>> new ACLs are significant security changes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Eno Thereska < >>>>> eno.there...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> +1 (non-binding). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Excellent work and discussions! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Eno >>>>>>>>>> On 2 Feb 2017, at 04:13, Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We would like to start the voting process for KIP-98. The KIP >>>> can >>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> found >>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP- >>>>>>>>> 98+-+Exactly+Once+Delivery+and+Transactional+Messaging >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Discussion thread can be found here: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1jwZrr7HRHf?subj=+ >>>>>>>>> DISCUSS+KIP+98+Exactly+Once+Delivery+and+Transactional+ >>> Messaging >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> -- Guozhang >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- Guozhang >>> >
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