+1 (non-binding).


> On 10 Feb 2017, at 13:40, Tom Crayford <tcrayf...@heroku.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm +0 (non-binding) on this now. I think the proposal here adds quite a
> lot of complexity to Kafka, makes building client libraries much harder,
> and is going to confuse users a lot. I'm also worried about this feature
> being hard to implement, and/or testing not being rigorous enough - Aphyr's
> Jepsen series shows how hard this kind of functionality is to get right in
> real world environments in the face of network failures. Those tests take
> hundreds of person-hours to conduct and analyze, and I hope this community
> will put in similar time in stabilizing this tricky feature before it
> reaches a released version.
> 
> However, exactly-once processing is very useful, and my non-binding
> reservations probably shouldn't hold the project back.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 7:50 AM, Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hello community,
>> 
>> We have made a few changes based on the comments in this thread as well as
>> the DISCUSS thread. Summary of the changes can be found in the update
>> history (2017/02/03 and 2017/02/07) of the design doc:
>> 
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/11Jqy_GjUGtdXJK94XGsEIK7CP1SnQGdp2eF
>> 0wSw9ra8/edit#heading=h.i8usz7jt7ms6
>> 
>> And details of the changes can be found here:
>> 
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@kafka.apache.org/msg66069.html
>> 
>> 
>> We'd like to solicit another round of voting for 72 hours due to these
>> changes, and people who have voted before on this thread are welcome to
>> re-review and vote again. Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> Guozhang
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Rajini Sivaram <rajinisiva...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> +1 (non-binding)
>>> 
>>> (with additional authorization from Jason's note in the discussion
>> thread)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 1:10 AM, Apurva Mehta <apu...@confluent.io>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The wiki has been updated with a section on authorization, as well a
>>>> summary of the message format changes.
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Jason Gustafson <ja...@confluent.io>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Tom, we'll update the wiki to reflect all the movement on the
>>>> design
>>>>> document. Did you have a specific concern with the new ACLs?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Jason
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 6:49 AM, Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That is a good point. During the discussion, it was agreed that
>>> changes
>>>>> to
>>>>>> public interfaces (message format, protocol, ACLs, etc.) would be
>>>> copied
>>>>> to
>>>>>> the wiki once the things had settled down, but it looks like that
>>>> hasn't
>>>>>> been done yet. I agree that it makes sense to do it before people
>>> vote
>>>> on
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ismael
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Tom Crayford <tcrayf...@heroku.com
>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -1 (non-binding)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've been slow at keeping up with the KIP and the discussion
>>> thread.
>>>>> This
>>>>>>> is an exciting and quite complex new feature, which provides
>> great
>>>> new
>>>>>>> functionality.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There's a thing I noticed missing from the KIP that's present in
>>> the
>>>>>> google
>>>>>>> doc - the doc talks about ACLs for TransactionalId. If those are
>>>> going
>>>>> to
>>>>>>> land with the KIP, I think they should be included in the KIP
>>> itself,
>>>>> as
>>>>>>> new ACLs are significant security changes.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Eno Thereska <
>>>> eno.there...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> +1 (non-binding).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Excellent work and discussions!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Eno
>>>>>>>>> On 2 Feb 2017, at 04:13, Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> We would like to start the voting process for KIP-98. The KIP
>>> can
>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
>>>>>>>> 98+-+Exactly+Once+Delivery+and+Transactional+Messaging
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Discussion thread can be found here:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1jwZrr7HRHf?subj=+
>>>>>>>> DISCUSS+KIP+98+Exactly+Once+Delivery+and+Transactional+
>> Messaging
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> -- Guozhang
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> -- Guozhang
>> 

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