Hi Jason,

Attached is a simple class with a main method. I used this for reproducing
issue and generate logs that i attached earlier. This class has code
snippets of poller relevant to the issue.

Regards,
Vinay Sharma

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Jason Gustafson <ja...@confluent.io> wrote:

> Hey Vinay,
>
> Thanks, that's really helpful. It does seem like there might be a problem
> with the heartbeat trigger logic. I'll see if I can reproduce what you're
> seeing locally. Might be helpful if you share a snippet of your poll loop.
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:55 AM, vinay sharma <vinsharma.t...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Jason,
> >
> > i reverted back to KAFKA-3149. Producer still had issues related to
> schema
> > but my consumer worked.
> >
> > Now consumer worked as expected. Although i did not encountered an error
> > and generation was not marked dead by coordinator but i still see that
> > successful heartbeat response are not logged as expected.
> > My observation is following:-
> > 1) Meta refresh also triggers heartbeat request. I say this because
> > sometimes i see 2 heartbeat responses logged just a few milliseconds away
> > where meta refresh and proactive commit happened almost simultaneously.
> > 2) I still see that some commitSync requests do not have a heartbeat
> > logged before or after commit. Although next proactive commit happened
> just
> > in time and this time heartbeat request was successful hence saved
> session.
> > In attached log you can see that poll was done at 14:17:41, a commit
> > happened at 14:17:56 and another commit happened at 14:18:14. The only
> > heart beat response logged during this time is at 14:18:14 which is 29
> > seconds after poll where as a commit was performed 15 seconds after poll.
> > Heartbeat interval was 3000.
> > 3) There are long pauses in heartbeat responses in logs which should
> cause
> > session to timeout but its not happening. This implies that commits
> trigger
> > a heartbeat but they also act as heartbeat.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Vinay
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Jason Gustafson <ja...@confluent.io>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Ah, yeah. That's probably caused by the new topic metadata version,
> which
> >> isn't supported on 0.9 brokers. To test on trunk, you'd have to upgrade
> >> the
> >> brokers as well. Either that or you can rewind to before KAFKA-3306
> (which
> >> was just committed the day before yesterday)?
> >>
> >> -Jason
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 9:01 AM, vinay sharma <vinsharma.t...@gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Jason,
> >> >
> >> > I build kafka-client and tried using it but my producers and consumers
> >> > started throwing below exception. Is 0.10 not going to be compatible
> >> with
> >> > brokers on version 0.9.0.1? or do i need to make some config changes
> to
> >> > producers / consumers to make them compatible with brokers on old
> >> version?
> >> > or do i need to upgrade brokers to new version as well?
> >> >
> >> >  org.apache.kafka.common.protocol.types.SchemaException: Error reading
> >> > field 'brokers': Error reading field 'host': Error reading string of
> >> length
> >> > 17995, only 145 bytes available
> >> > at org.apache.kafka.common.protocol.types.Schema.read(Schema.java:75)
> >> > at
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> org.apache.kafka.clients.NetworkClient.parseResponse(NetworkClient.java:380)
> >> > at
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> org.apache.kafka.clients.NetworkClient.handleCompletedReceives(NetworkClient.java:449)
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Vinay Sharma
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:32 AM, Jason Gustafson <ja...@confluent.io
> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hey Vinay,
> >> > >
> >> > > Any chance you can run the same test against trunk? I'm guessing
> this
> >> > might
> >> > > be caused by a bug in the 0.9 consumer which basically causes some
> >> > requests
> >> > > to fail when a bunch of them are sent to the broker at the same
> time.
> >> > >
> >> > > -Jason
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 1:02 PM, vinay sharma <
> >> vinsharma.t...@gmail.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi Jason,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > This makes sense.We use 0.9.0.1 and we do have session timeout
> set a
> >> > bit
> >> > > > high but nothing can guarantee that there will be no case when
> >> > processing
> >> > > > may not go higher than session timeout. I am trying to test a
> >> proactive
> >> > > > commit approach to handle such cases when processing takes
> unusually
> >> > long
> >> > > > time. To keep consumer's session alive during long processing
> time i
> >> > > > proactively commitSync processed records every 15 seconds. Session
> >> > > timeout
> >> > > > i kept is 30000.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > *Problem:-*
> >> > > > With heart beat interval is 3000 then i expect a hearbeat request
> >> to be
> >> > > > sent on each proactive commit which happens every 15 seconds. In
> my
> >> > > tests i
> >> > > > see that this does not happen always. I see a time window which is
> >> > > greater
> >> > > > than 30 seconds where no hearbeat is sent even thought there were
> >> > commits
> >> > > > in this duration. After this window i see a couple of successful
> >> > > heartbeat
> >> > > > responses till the end of poll but as soon as i poll again and
> call
> >> > > > commitSync in next poll i get "ILLEGAL_GENERATION" error. This
> error
> >> > > always
> >> > > > happen just after meta refresh or in next poll processing after a
> >> meta
> >> > > > refresh. I am attaching logs where i kept meta refresh interval
> >> 40000,
> >> > > > 90000, 500000.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > *Test results *:-
> >> > > > Test with meta refresh 40000 ms ran around 70 seconds from 1st
> poll.
> >> > > > Test with meta refresh 90000 ms ran around 120 seconds from 1st
> >> poll.
> >> > > > Test with meta refresh 500000 ms ran around 564 seconds from 1st
> >> poll.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Every test falls in line with above test cases where generation is
> >> > marked
> >> > > > dead some time after a meta refresh. Meta refresh before 1st poll
> >> does
> >> > > not
> >> > > > create any issue but the ones after poll and during long
> processing
> >> do.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > *Environment:-*
> >> > > > My setup has 3 brokers 1 zk. Topic has 3 partitions ans has
> >> replication
> >> > > > factor 3. Messages are already published to topic.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > *Logic used in test cases :- *
> >> > > > On each poll I initialize a map with current committed offset
> >> position
> >> > of
> >> > > > partitions being consumed. I update this map after each record
> >> > processing
> >> > > > and use this map to proactively commit every 15 seconds. Map is
> >> > > initialized
> >> > > > again after a proactive commit.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I am not sure what is wrong here but i do not see any issue in
> code
> >> or
> >> > > > offset commits going on. Log files and a class with main method
> are
> >> > > > attached for your reference.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Regards,
> >> > > > Vinay Sharma
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Jason Gustafson <
> >> ja...@confluent.io>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Hi Vinay,
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Answers below:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> 1)  Is it correct to say that each commitSync will trigger a
> >> > > >> HeartBeatTask?
> >> > > >> > If there is no hear beat sent in past since specified heartbeat
> >> > > interval
> >> > > >> > then i should see a successful heartbeat response or failure
> >> message
> >> > > in
> >> > > >> > logs near to commitSync success log?
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Not quite. Heartbeats are sent periodically according to the
> >> > > >> heartbeat.interval.ms configuration. However, since the consumer
> >> has
> >> > no
> >> > > >> background thread, they can only be sent in API calls such as
> >> poll()
> >> > or
> >> > > >> commitSync(). So calling commitSync() may or may not result in a
> >> > > heartbeat
> >> > > >> depending only on whether one is "due."
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> 2) is it correct to say that Meta Data refresh will not act as
> >> > > heartbeat,
> >> > > >> > will not trigger heartBeatTask and will not reset
> heartBeatTask?
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> That is correct. Metadata refreshes are not related to
> heartbeats.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> 3) Where does a consumer session maintained? Lets say my consumer
> >> is
> >> > > >> > listening to 3 partitions on a 3 broker cluster where each
> >> broker is
> >> > > >> leader
> >> > > >> > of 1 partition. So will each of the brokers will have a session
> >> for
> >> > my
> >> > > >> > consumer or is it just 1 session maintained somewhere in common
> >> like
> >> > > >> > zookeeper?
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> One of the brokers serves as the "group coordinator." When the
> >> > consumer
> >> > > >> starts up, it sends a GroupCoordinator request to one of the
> >> brokers
> >> > to
> >> > > >> find out who the coordinator is. Currently, coordinators are
> chosen
> >> > from
> >> > > >> among the leaders of the partitions of the __consumer_offsets
> >> topic.
> >> > > This
> >> > > >> lets us take advantage of the leader election process to also
> >> handle
> >> > > >> coordinator failures. The coordinator of each group maintains
> state
> >> > for
> >> > > >> the
> >> > > >> group and keeps track of session timeouts.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> 4) In above setup, during a long processing if I commit a record
> >> > through
> >> > > >> > commmitSync which triggers a hear beat request and a successful
> >> > > >> response is
> >> > > >> > received for the same then what does this response means? does
> it
> >> > mean
> >> > > >> that
> >> > > >> > my session with each broker is renewed? or does it mean that
> just
> >> > the
> >> > > >> > leader for partition of committed record knows that my consumer
> >> is
> >> > > alive
> >> > > >> > and consumer's session on other brokers will still timeout?
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> The coordinator is the only broker that is aware of a consumer's
> >> > session
> >> > > >> and all offset commits are sent to it. Successful heartbeats mean
> >> that
> >> > > the
> >> > > >> session is still active. Heartbeats are also used to let the
> >> consumer
> >> > > >> discover when a rebalance has begun. If a new member joins the
> >> group,
> >> > > then
> >> > > >> the coordinator returns an error code in the heartbeat responses
> of
> >> > the
> >> > > >> active members to let them know that they need to rejoin the
> group
> >> so
> >> > > that
> >> > > >> partitions can be rebalanced.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> I wouldn't get too hung up on commit/heartbeat behavior. The crux
> >> of
> >> > the
> >> > > >> issue is that you need to call poll() often enough to avoid
> getting
> >> > > timed
> >> > > >> out by the coordinator. If you find this happening frequently,
> you
> >> > > >> probably
> >> > > >> need to increase session.timeout.ms. There's not really any
> >> downside
> >> > to
> >> > > >> doing so other than that hard failures (in which the consumer
> >> can't be
> >> > > >> shutdown cleanly) will take a little longer to detect. Normal
> >> shutdown
> >> > > >> doesn't have this problem. It can be difficult in 0.9 to ensure
> >> that
> >> > > >> poll()
> >> > > >> is called often enough since you don't have direct control over
> the
> >> > > amount
> >> > > >> of data returned in poll(), but we're adding an option
> >> > > (max.poll.records)
> >> > > >> in 0.10 which hopefully can be set conservatively enough to make
> >> this
> >> > > >> problem go away.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> -Jason
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 7:11 AM, vinay sharma <
> >> > vinsharma.t...@gmail.com
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> > Hey,
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > I am working on a simplified test case to check if there is any
> >> > issue
> >> > > >> in my
> >> > > >> > code. Just to make sure that any of my assumptions are not
> >> wrong, it
> >> > > >> will
> >> > > >> > be great if you can please help me in finding answers to
> >> following
> >> > > >> > queries:-
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > 1)  Is it correct to say that each commitSync will trigger a
> >> > > >> HeartBeatTask?
> >> > > >> > If there is no hear beat sent in past since specified heartbeat
> >> > > interval
> >> > > >> > then i should see a successful heartbeat response or failure
> >> message
> >> > > in
> >> > > >> > logs near to commitSync success log?
> >> > > >> > 2) is it correct to say that Meta Data refresh will not act as
> >> > > >> heartbeat,
> >> > > >> > will not trigger heartBeatTask and will not reset
> heartBeatTask?
> >> > > >> > 3) Where does a consumer session maintained? Lets say my
> >> consumer is
> >> > > >> > listening to 3 partitions on a 3 broker cluster where each
> >> broker is
> >> > > >> leader
> >> > > >> > of 1 partition. So will each of the brokers will have a session
> >> for
> >> > my
> >> > > >> > consumer or is it just 1 session maintained somewhere in common
> >> like
> >> > > >> > zookeeper?
> >> > > >> > 4) In above setup, during a long processing if I commit a
> record
> >> > > through
> >> > > >> > commmitSync which triggers a hear beat request and a successful
> >> > > >> response is
> >> > > >> > received for the same then what does this response means? does
> it
> >> > mean
> >> > > >> that
> >> > > >> > my session with each broker is renewed? or does it mean that
> just
> >> > the
> >> > > >> > leader for partition of committed record knows that my consumer
> >> is
> >> > > alive
> >> > > >> > and consumer's session on other brokers will still timeout?
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Regards,
> >> > > >> > Vinay Sharma
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Jason Gustafson <
> >> > ja...@confluent.io>
> >> > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > > Hey Vinay,
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > Are you saying that heartbeats are not sent while a metadata
> >> > refresh
> >> > > >> is
> >> > > >> > in
> >> > > >> > > progress? Do you have any logs which show us the apparent
> >> problem?
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > Thanks,
> >> > > >> > > Jason
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 8:18 AM, vinay sharma <
> >> > > >> vinsharma.t...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > Hi Ismael,
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > Treating commitSync as heartbeat will definitely resolve
> the
> >> > issue
> >> > > >> i am
> >> > > >> > > > facing but the reason behind my issue does not seem to be
> >> what
> >> > > >> > mentioned
> >> > > >> > > in
> >> > > >> > > > defect (i.e frequent commitSync requests).
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > I am sending CommitSync periodically only to keep my
> session
> >> > alive
> >> > > >> when
> >> > > >> > > my
> >> > > >> > > > consumer is still processing records and is close to
> session
> >> > time
> >> > > >> out
> >> > > >> > > > (tried 10th / 12th / 15th / 20th second after poll called
> >> where
> >> > > >> session
> >> > > >> > > > time is 30). I see heartbeat response received in logs
> along
> >> > with
> >> > > >> each
> >> > > >> > > > commitSync call but this stops after a meta data refresh
> >> request
> >> > > is
> >> > > >> > > issued.
> >> > > >> > > > I see in logs that commit goes successful but no heartbeat
> >> > > response
> >> > > >> > > > received message in logs after meta refresh till next poll.
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > Regards,
> >> > > >> > > > Vinay Sharma
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ismael Juma <
> >> ism...@juma.me.uk
> >> > >
> >> > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > Hi Vinay,
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > This was fixed via
> >> > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-3470
> >> > > >> > > > (will
> >> > > >> > > > > be part of 0.10.0.0).
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > Ismael
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 1:52 PM, vinay sharma <
> >> > > >> > > vinsharma.t...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > Hello,
> >> > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > I am using client API 0.9.0.1 and facing an issue. As
> >> per my
> >> > > >> logs
> >> > > >> > it
> >> > > >> > > > > seems
> >> > > >> > > > > > that on each commitSync(Offsets) a heartbeat request is
> >> sent
> >> > > but
> >> > > >> > > after
> >> > > >> > > > a
> >> > > >> > > > > > metada refresh request till next poll(), commits do not
> >> send
> >> > > any
> >> > > >> > > > hearbeat
> >> > > >> > > > > > request.
> >> > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > KafkaConsumers i create sometimes get session time out
> >> due
> >> > to
> >> > > no
> >> > > >> > > > hearbeat
> >> > > >> > > > > > specially during longer processing times. I call
> >> > > >> > CommitSync(offsets)
> >> > > >> > > > > after
> >> > > >> > > > > > regular intervals to keep session alive when processing
> >> > takes
> >> > > >> > longer
> >> > > >> > > > than
> >> > > >> > > > > > usual. Every thing works fine if commit intervals are
> >> very
> >> > > >> small or
> >> > > >> > > if
> >> > > >> > > > i
> >> > > >> > > > > > commit after each record but if i commit lets say every
> >> 12
> >> > > >> seconds
> >> > > >> > > and
> >> > > >> > > > 30
> >> > > >> > > > > > seconds is session time then i can see consumer getting
> >> > timed
> >> > > >> out
> >> > > >> > > > > > sometimes.
> >> > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > Any help or pointers will be much appreciated. Thanks
> in
> >> > > >> advance.
> >> > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > Regards,
> >> > > >> > > > > > Vinay sharma
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