On Mon, Dec 9, 2024, at 11:33, Alyssa Huang wrote: > Hey David and folks, > > I wanted to discuss the possibility of merging in KIP-996 (PreVote) in two > phases in order to make the 4.0 release. > Part 1 <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17807> (Vote RPC includes > PreVote field) by feature freeze > Part 2 <https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2> (new internal Prospective > QuorumState and response handling) by code freeze > > Best, > Alyssa >
+1 frorm me. What do you think David? Colin > > On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 1:51 AM Andrew Schofield < > andrew_schofield_j...@outlook.com> wrote: > >> Hi David, >> I have added KIP-1043. With the exception of one method deprecation >> which I intend to do in 4.1, it's done. >> >> Thanks, >> Andrew >> ________________________________________ >> From: Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com> >> Sent: 02 December 2024 19:45 >> To: dev@kafka.apache.org <dev@kafka.apache.org> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 4.0.0 release >> >> Hey David >> >> Thank you for patiently waiting for KIP-1030 [1]. It is now accepted and I >> have updated the release plan with the KIP. >> >> [1] >> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations >> >> >> -- >> Divij Vaidya >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:37 AM TengYao Chi <kiting...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Hello David, >> > >> > I’ve just added KIP-653, which aims to upgrade Log4j to Log4j2. >> > This KIP was accepted a long time ago, and the PR is now almost ready. >> > I’m currently working on it. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > TengYao >> > >> > >> > David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2024年11月26日 週二 下午4:23寫道： >> > >> > > Thanks, Luke! >> > > >> > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:16 AM Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > > Hi David, >> > > > >> > > > Thanks for checking the KIPs. >> > > > I've just added KIP-1011 that Ziming mentioned above into the release >> > > plan, >> > > > and confirmed it is already in accepted status. >> > > > >> > > > Thanks. >> > > > Luke >> > > > >> > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:10 PM David Jacot <david.ja...@gmail.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Hi all, >> > > > > >> > > > > I just checked the release plan and it does not contain any >> > > > > non-accepted KIPs. I added a few other accepted KIPs too. >> > > > > >> > > > > The feature freeze is on Dec. 11th. >> > > > > >> > > > > Best, >> > > > > David >> > > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 8:38 AM David Jacot <david.ja...@gmail.com >> > >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Hi PoAn/Ziming, >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks for adding those to the release plan! >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Best, >> > > > > > David >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:25 AM Ziming Deng < >> > > dengziming1...@gmail.com> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hi David & Luke, >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks for driving the release, let’s add KIP-1011 to the >> release >> > > > plan >> > > > > which should have beed released in 3.7.0, after postpone doing it >> we >> > > can >> > > > > directly remove deprecated alterConfigs from ConfgCommand to avoid >> > > making >> > > > > our code dirty. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > --, >> > > > > > > Ziming >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Nov 20, 2024, at 18:04, David Jacot >> > > <dja...@confluent.io.INVALID >> > > > > >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hi all, >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This is a friendly reminder that the KIP freeze deadline is >> > > today. >> > > > > As we >> > > > > > > > have a few KIPs getting close to be accepted, I will wait >> until >> > > > > Monday to >> > > > > > > > compile the final list. Please update the status of your >> KIPs. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The next deadline is the Features freeze on Dec 11th. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Cheers, >> > > > > > > > David >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Cheers, >> > > > > > > > David >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:02 PM David Jacot < >> > > dja...@confluent.io> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Hi Divij, >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> I think that we can make a small exception for KIP-1030 but >> we >> > > > > cannot wait >> > > > > > > >> too long. How long do you need to close it? Ideally, we >> should >> > > aim >> > > > > for >> > > > > > > >> closing it in the next two weeks. If we cannot do it, we may >> > > have >> > > > to >> > > > > > > >> discuss it again. Please keep me posted. >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> BR, >> > > > > > > >> David >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:16 AM Luke Chen < >> show...@gmail.com> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >>> Hi Tina, >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> I've added KIP-1073 into the release plan. >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> Thanks. >> > > > > > > >>> Luke >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:26 AM Gantigmaa Selenge < >> > > > > gsele...@redhat.com> >> > > > > > > >>> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>>> Hi David, >> > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > >>>> KIP-1073 I mentioned in my previous email has now passed >> the >> > > > > voting so >> > > > > > > >>> it >> > > > > > > >>>> does not need an exceptional extension anymore. Can we >> > please >> > > > > include >> > > > > > > >>> it in >> > > > > > > >>>> the release plan? >> > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > >>>> Thank you. >> > > > > > > >>>> Regards, >> > > > > > > >>>> Tina >> > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > >>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 3:04 PM Gantigmaa Selenge < >> > > > > gsele...@redhat.com> >> > > > > > > >>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>> Hi, >> > > > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>> Can I also please request an exceptional extension for >> > > KIP-1073 >> > > > > [1] >> > > > > > > >>> which >> > > > > > > >>>>> allows getting fenced brokers via AdminClient. This is >> > > > > particularly >> > > > > > > >>>>> important when scaling down a KRaft cluster, because >> > brokers >> > > > > need to >> > > > > > > >>> be >> > > > > > > >>>>> unregistered first but currently there is no way to list >> > the >> > > > > brokers >> > > > > > > >>> in >> > > > > > > >>>>> order to unregister once they are shut down/fenced. >> > > > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>> This KIP has been open for voting for over a month and >> has >> > > > > currently 2 >> > > > > > > >>>>> binding +1 and 1 non binding +1 [2]. I also have raised a >> > > draft >> > > > > PR for >> > > > > > > >>>> the >> > > > > > > >>>>> implementation [3]. >> > > > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>> Since it's missing just one more binding +1 and the >> > > > > implementation is >> > > > > > > >>>>> ready for review, it would be great to include it in >> 4.0.0. >> > > > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>> [1] >> > > > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1073%3A+Return+fenced+brokers+in+DescribeCluster+response >> > > > > > > >>>>> [2] >> > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/zm5kk9st54rj6t5pw9v1dnxhk64mho4m >> > > > > > > >>>>> [3] https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17524 >> > > > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>> Regards, >> > > > > > > >>>>> Tina >> > > > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 12:14 PM Luke Chen < >> > > show...@gmail.com> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Hi Divij, >> > > > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>> I agree we _should_ include it into v4.0.0 to make the >> > kafka >> > > > > default >> > > > > > > >>>> value >> > > > > > > >>>>>> more reasonable, instead of doing it until v5.0.0. >> > > > > > > >>>>>> What do you think, @David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io> ? >> > > > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Thanks. >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Luke >> > > > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 7:01 PM Divij Vaidya < >> > > > > > > >>> divijvaidy...@gmail.com> >> > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hey David >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Can I please request an exceptional extension for >> > KIP-1030 >> > > > [1] >> > > > > > > >>> which >> > > > > > > >>>>>> aims >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> to change configuration defaults and add some new >> > > constraints >> > > > > for >> > > > > > > >>> our >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> configuration? Since these are backward incompatible >> > > changes, >> > > > > if >> > > > > > > >>> they >> > > > > > > >>>>>> don't >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> go out in 4.0, the earliest we could release them would >> > be >> > > > the >> > > > > next >> > > > > > > >>>>>> major >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> version. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I understand that the KIP was filed last minute very >> > close >> > > to >> > > > > the >> > > > > > > >>>>>> freeze. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Given the benefit to operational load of Kafka >> > maintenance >> > > > > this KIP >> > > > > > > >>>>>> could >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> have, I would request to consider this KIP for 4.0 even >> > > after >> > > > > the >> > > > > > > >>>>>> freeze. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> [1] >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> -- >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Divij Vaidya >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 3:13 PM David Jacot >> > > > > > > >>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi all, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP freeze is on >> > 20th >> > > > > > > >>> November >> > > > > > > >>>>>> 2024, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> one week from today. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Best, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> David >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 5:09 AM Luke Chen < >> > > show...@gmail.com >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hi Kamal, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Just added them in to the release plan. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Luke >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 11:11 AM Kamal Chandraprakash >> < >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> kamal.chandraprak...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Please add the KIP-1058 and KIP-1105 to the release >> > > plan. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> KIP-1058 is accepted and PRs are ready. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> KIP-1105 is a minor one, and will open a voting >> thread >> > > > soon. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Kamal >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:28 AM Luke Chen < >> > > > show...@gmail.com >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alyssa, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-966 into the release plan. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Luke >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 3:54 AM Alyssa Huang >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> <ahu...@confluent.io.invalid >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for being the release manager for >> 4.0! >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I noticed the release plan >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> < >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 >> > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> does >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> not yet have KIP-996 (Pre-Vote) listed, can I edit >> > the >> > > > > > > >>> page >> > > > > > > >>>> to >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> add >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> it? >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Alyssa >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:36 AM Colin McCabe < >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi TengYao Chi, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The KIP freeze for Apache Kafka 4.0 is. November >> > > 20th. >> > > > > > > >>> So >> > > > > > > >>>> if >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> KIP-1092 >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> has >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> been accepted already, it should make it into 4.0 >> > > > > > > >>> without >> > > > > > > >>>>>> any >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> further >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion (assuming the code is ready by feature >> > > > > > > >>> freeze.) >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024, at 20:32, TengYao Chi >> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to request the inclusion of >> KIP-1092 >> > in >> > > > > > > >>> the >> > > > > > > >>>>>> 4.0 >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> release >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> plan. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP is newly accepted, and I believe it >> will >> > > > > > > >>> bring >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> valuable >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancements for both the Consumer and Kafka >> > Streams >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> components. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for considering this addition. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TengYao >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> 於 2024年10月11日 >> > 週五 >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> 上午12:22寫道： >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes (although I don't believe there's a JIRA >> for >> > > > > > > >>> that >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> specifically >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> yet.) >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 09:11, David Jacot >> > wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Colin, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. That seems perfect. Does it include >> > > > > > > >>> removing >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> --zookeeper >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> from >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command line tools (e.g. kafka-configs)? >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 6:06 PM Colin McCabe < >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17611 >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> as >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the umbrella JIRA for ZK removal tasks. >> > Progress >> > > > > > > >>>> has >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> been >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> pretty >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rapid, I >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do think we will get there by January. (Well >> > > > > > > >>>> hopefully >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> even >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> earlier >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> :) >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 05:55, David Jacot >> > > > > > > >>> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a good point. I think that we should >> > > > > > > >>> try to >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> stick >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> to >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> the >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> dates >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. In my opinion, we should ensure that >> > ZK >> > > > > > > >>>> and >> > > > > > > >>>>>> all >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> related >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing apis are gone in 4.0 by code freeze. >> > The >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> simplest >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> way >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> would >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> be >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an epic for the removal with all the >> > > > > > > >>> related >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> tasks. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> We >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> can >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> then >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it as a blocker for 4.0. We may already have >> > > > > > > >>> one. >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Let >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> me >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> search >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:43 PM Luke Chen < >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The release plan looks good to me. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since the 4.0 release is a release >> > without >> > > > > > > >>>> ZK, >> > > > > > > >>>>>> I'm >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wondering >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> if >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some release criteria for it? >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Problem I can imagine is like, when the >> > > > > > > >>> code >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> freeze >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> date >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> is >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reached, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but there are still many ZK removal tasks >> > > > > > > >>> open, >> > > > > > > >>>>>> what >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> should >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> we >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> do >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them? We can remove the rest of codes in >> > later >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> releases, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> but >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> if >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> there >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still some public APIs related to ZK open >> for >> > > > > > > >>>>>> users to >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> use, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> is >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK to release 4.0? Ex: The `--zookeeper` >> > > > > > > >>> option >> > > > > > > >>>> in >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> kafka-configs.sh? >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of only using time-based management >> > in >> > > > > > > >>>>>> v4.0, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I'm >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some "must-do" tasks and track >> > > > > > > >>> them >> > > > > > > >>>>>> when >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> milestone >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> date >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaches. And we can discuss with the >> > > > > > > >>> community >> > > > > > > >>>>>> if >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> there >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> are >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> some >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delayed >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. Does that make sense? >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:29 PM David Jacot >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have drafted the release plan for Apache >> > > > > > > >>>> Kafka >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 4.0.0: >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> . >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please take a look and let me know what >> you >> > > > > > > >>>>>> think. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would also appreciate it if you could >> > > > > > > >>> review >> > > > > > > >>>>>> the >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> list >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> of >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> KIPs >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will ship in this release. I took the list >> > > > > > > >>> from >> > > > > > > >>>>>> the >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> approved >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> list >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki but I am pretty sure that the list is >> > > > > > > >>> not >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> accurate. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davud >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 5:02 AM Luke Chen >> < >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since v4.0 will be a huge change release, >> > > > > > > >>> I'm >> > > > > > > >>>>>> not >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> sure >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> if >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> you >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person (vice release manager?) to help on >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> releasing >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> tasks. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, I'm willing to help. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 1:33 AM Colin >> > > > > > > >>> McCabe >> > > > > > > >>>> < >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1. Thanks, David. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, at 10:11, Chris >> > > > > > > >>>> Egerton >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! +1 >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, 13:07 José >> > > > > > > >>> Armando >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> García >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Sancio >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks for volunteering David! >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 11:56 AM >> > > > > > > >>> David >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Arthur < >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mum...@gmail.com> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks David! >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 11:48 AM >> > > > > > > >>>> Satish >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Duggana < >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satish.dugg...@gmail.com> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for volunteering! >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Sept 2024 at 19:27, >> > > > > > > >>>> Lianet >> > > > > > > >>>>>> M. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> < >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liane...@gmail.com> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, 9:54 a.m. >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Justine >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Olshan >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jols...@confluent.io.invalid> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks! >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at >> > > > > > > >>> 6:36 AM >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Chia-Ping >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Tsai >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> < >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chia7...@gmail.com >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks David for >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> volunteering! >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josep Prat >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 於 >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024年9月23日 >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 週一 >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 下午9:13寫道： >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for >> > > > > > > >>>> volunteering! >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at >> > > > > > > >>>>>> 3:11 PM >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> David >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Jacot >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to >> > > > > > > >>> volunteer >> > > > > > > >>>>>> to be >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> release >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manager >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driving >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release - Apache Kafka >> > > > > > > >>>>>> 4.0.0. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are no >> > > > > > > >>>> objections, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> I'll >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> start >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building a >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the next couple of >> > > > > > > >>>> days. >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] < >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://www.aiven.io/ >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat* >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source Engineering >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Director, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> *Aiven* >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io | >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> +491715557497 >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io < >> > > > > > > >>>>>> https://www.aiven.io/> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> | >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> < >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/ >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> < >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH* >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 >> > > > > > > >>>>>> Berlin >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Saarenmaa, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hannu >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Valtonen, >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anna Richardson, Kenneth >> > > > > > > >>>> Chen >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht >> > > > > > > >>> Charlottenburg, >> > > > > > > >>>>>> HRB >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> 209739 >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> B >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Arthur >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -José >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >>
