Hi Ismael and all, Question: While browsing the KIPs, I found we missed KIP-724 <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-724%3A+Drop+support+for+message+formats+v0+and+v1> in the kafka v4.0 plan. Based on the KIP, we should drop support for message formats v0 and v1 in v4.0. Is this plan still valid?
Thanks. Luke On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 3:33 AM Alyssa Huang <ahu...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote: > Hey David and folks, > > I wanted to discuss the possibility of merging in KIP-996 (PreVote) in two > phases in order to make the 4.0 release. > Part 1 <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17807> (Vote RPC includes > PreVote field) by feature freeze > Part 2 <https://github.com/ahuang98/kafka/pull/2> (new internal > Prospective > QuorumState and response handling) by code freeze > > Best, > Alyssa > > On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 1:51 AM Andrew Schofield < > andrew_schofield_j...@outlook.com> wrote: > > > Hi David, > > I have added KIP-1043. With the exception of one method deprecation > > which I intend to do in 4.1, it's done. > > > > Thanks, > > Andrew > > ________________________________________ > > From: Divij Vaidya <divijvaidy...@gmail.com> > > Sent: 02 December 2024 19:45 > > To: dev@kafka.apache.org <dev@kafka.apache.org> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Kafka 4.0.0 release > > > > Hey David > > > > Thank you for patiently waiting for KIP-1030 [1]. It is now accepted and > I > > have updated the release plan with the KIP. > > > > [1] > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > > > > > > -- > > Divij Vaidya > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:37 AM TengYao Chi <kiting...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hello David, > > > > > > I’ve just added KIP-653, which aims to upgrade Log4j to Log4j2. > > > This KIP was accepted a long time ago, and the PR is now almost ready. > > > I’m currently working on it. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > TengYao > > > > > > > > > David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2024年11月26日 週二 下午4:23寫道： > > > > > > > Thanks, Luke! > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:16 AM Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi David, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for checking the KIPs. > > > > > I've just added KIP-1011 that Ziming mentioned above into the > release > > > > plan, > > > > > and confirmed it is already in accepted status. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > Luke > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:10 PM David Jacot <david.ja...@gmail.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > I just checked the release plan and it does not contain any > > > > > > non-accepted KIPs. I added a few other accepted KIPs too. > > > > > > > > > > > > The feature freeze is on Dec. 11th. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 8:38 AM David Jacot < > david.ja...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi PoAn/Ziming, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for adding those to the release plan! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:25 AM Ziming Deng < > > > > dengziming1...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi David & Luke, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for driving the release, let’s add KIP-1011 to the > > release > > > > > plan > > > > > > which should have beed released in 3.7.0, after postpone doing it > > we > > > > can > > > > > > directly remove deprecated alterConfigs from ConfgCommand to > avoid > > > > making > > > > > > our code dirty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --, > > > > > > > > Ziming > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 20, 2024, at 18:04, David Jacot > > > > <dja...@confluent.io.INVALID > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a friendly reminder that the KIP freeze deadline is > > > > today. > > > > > > As we > > > > > > > > > have a few KIPs getting close to be accepted, I will wait > > until > > > > > > Monday to > > > > > > > > > compile the final list. Please update the status of your > > KIPs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next deadline is the Features freeze on Dec 11th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:02 PM David Jacot < > > > > dja...@confluent.io> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi Divij, > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> I think that we can make a small exception for KIP-1030 > but > > we > > > > > > cannot wait > > > > > > > > >> too long. How long do you need to close it? Ideally, we > > should > > > > aim > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > >> closing it in the next two weeks. If we cannot do it, we > may > > > > have > > > > > to > > > > > > > > >> discuss it again. Please keep me posted. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> BR, > > > > > > > > >> David > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:16 AM Luke Chen < > > show...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> Hi Tina, > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> I've added KIP-1073 into the release plan. > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> Thanks. > > > > > > > > >>> Luke > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 5:26 AM Gantigmaa Selenge < > > > > > > gsele...@redhat.com> > > > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>>> Hi David, > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> KIP-1073 I mentioned in my previous email has now passed > > the > > > > > > voting so > > > > > > > > >>> it > > > > > > > > >>>> does not need an exceptional extension anymore. Can we > > > please > > > > > > include > > > > > > > > >>> it in > > > > > > > > >>>> the release plan? > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> Thank you. > > > > > > > > >>>> Regards, > > > > > > > > >>>> Tina > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 3:04 PM Gantigmaa Selenge < > > > > > > gsele...@redhat.com> > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> Hi, > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> Can I also please request an exceptional extension for > > > > KIP-1073 > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > >>> which > > > > > > > > >>>>> allows getting fenced brokers via AdminClient. This is > > > > > > particularly > > > > > > > > >>>>> important when scaling down a KRaft cluster, because > > > brokers > > > > > > need to > > > > > > > > >>> be > > > > > > > > >>>>> unregistered first but currently there is no way to > list > > > the > > > > > > brokers > > > > > > > > >>> in > > > > > > > > >>>>> order to unregister once they are shut down/fenced. > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> This KIP has been open for voting for over a month and > > has > > > > > > currently 2 > > > > > > > > >>>>> binding +1 and 1 non binding +1 [2]. I also have > raised a > > > > draft > > > > > > PR for > > > > > > > > >>>> the > > > > > > > > >>>>> implementation [3]. > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> Since it's missing just one more binding +1 and the > > > > > > implementation is > > > > > > > > >>>>> ready for review, it would be great to include it in > > 4.0.0. > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> [1] > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1073%3A+Return+fenced+brokers+in+DescribeCluster+response > > > > > > > > >>>>> [2] > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/zm5kk9st54rj6t5pw9v1dnxhk64mho4m > > > > > > > > >>>>> [3] https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17524 > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> Regards, > > > > > > > > >>>>> Tina > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 12:14 PM Luke Chen < > > > > show...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Hi Divij, > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> I agree we _should_ include it into v4.0.0 to make the > > > kafka > > > > > > default > > > > > > > > >>>> value > > > > > > > > >>>>>> more reasonable, instead of doing it until v5.0.0. > > > > > > > > >>>>>> What do you think, @David Jacot <dja...@confluent.io> > ? > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Thanks. > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Luke > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 7:01 PM Divij Vaidya < > > > > > > > > >>> divijvaidy...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hey David > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Can I please request an exceptional extension for > > > KIP-1030 > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > >>> which > > > > > > > > >>>>>> aims > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> to change configuration defaults and add some new > > > > constraints > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > >>> our > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> configuration? Since these are backward incompatible > > > > changes, > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > >>> they > > > > > > > > >>>>>> don't > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> go out in 4.0, the earliest we could release them > would > > > be > > > > > the > > > > > > next > > > > > > > > >>>>>> major > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> version. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I understand that the KIP was filed last minute very > > > close > > > > to > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > >>>>>> freeze. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Given the benefit to operational load of Kafka > > > maintenance > > > > > > this KIP > > > > > > > > >>>>>> could > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> have, I would request to consider this KIP for 4.0 > even > > > > after > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > >>>>>> freeze. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> [1] > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1030%3A+Change+constraints+and+default+values+for+various+configurations > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> -- > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Divij Vaidya > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 3:13 PM David Jacot > > > > > > > > >>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that the KIP freeze is > on > > > 20th > > > > > > > > >>> November > > > > > > > > >>>>>> 2024, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> one week from today. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> David > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 5:09 AM Luke Chen < > > > > show...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hi Kamal, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Just added them in to the release plan. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Luke > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 11:11 AM Kamal > Chandraprakash > > < > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> kamal.chandraprak...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Please add the KIP-1058 and KIP-1105 to the > release > > > > plan. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> KIP-1058 is accepted and PRs are ready. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> KIP-1105 is a minor one, and will open a voting > > thread > > > > > soon. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Kamal > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:28 AM Luke Chen < > > > > > show...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alyssa, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I've added KIP-966 into the release plan. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 3:54 AM Alyssa Huang > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> <ahu...@confluent.io.invalid > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for being the release manager for > > 4.0! > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I noticed the release plan > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> does > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> not yet have KIP-996 (Pre-Vote) listed, can I > edit > > > the > > > > > > > > >>> page > > > > > > > > >>>> to > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> add > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> it? > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Alyssa > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:36 AM Colin McCabe < > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi TengYao Chi, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The KIP freeze for Apache Kafka 4.0 is. > November > > > > 20th. > > > > > > > > >>> So > > > > > > > > >>>> if > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> KIP-1092 > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> has > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> been accepted already, it should make it into > 4.0 > > > > > > > > >>> without > > > > > > > > >>>>>> any > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> further > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion (assuming the code is ready by > feature > > > > > > > > >>> freeze.) > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024, at 20:32, TengYao Chi > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to request the inclusion of > > KIP-1092 > > > in > > > > > > > > >>> the > > > > > > > > >>>>>> 4.0 > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> release > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> plan. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This KIP is newly accepted, and I believe it > > will > > > > > > > > >>> bring > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> valuable > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancements for both the Consumer and Kafka > > > Streams > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> components. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for considering this addition. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TengYao > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> 於 > 2024年10月11日 > > > 週五 > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> 上午12:22寫道： > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes (although I don't believe there's a JIRA > > for > > > > > > > > >>> that > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> specifically > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> yet.) > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 09:11, David Jacot > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Colin, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. That seems perfect. Does it include > > > > > > > > >>> removing > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> --zookeeper > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> from > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command line tools (e.g. kafka-configs)? > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 6:06 PM Colin > McCabe < > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David & Luke, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17611 > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> as > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the umbrella JIRA for ZK removal tasks. > > > Progress > > > > > > > > >>>> has > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> been > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> pretty > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rapid, I > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do think we will get there by January. > (Well > > > > > > > > >>>> hopefully > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> even > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> earlier > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> :) > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024, at 05:55, David Jacot > > > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a good point. I think that we > should > > > > > > > > >>> try to > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> stick > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> to > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> dates > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. In my opinion, we should ensure > that > > > ZK > > > > > > > > >>>> and > > > > > > > > >>>>>> all > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> related > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing apis are gone in 4.0 by code > freeze. > > > The > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> simplest > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> way > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> would > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> be > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an epic for the removal with all the > > > > > > > > >>> related > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> tasks. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> We > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> can > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> then > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it as a blocker for 4.0. We may already > have > > > > > > > > >>> one. > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Let > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> me > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> search > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:43 PM Luke Chen > < > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The release plan looks good to me. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since the 4.0 release is a release > > > without > > > > > > > > >>>> ZK, > > > > > > > > >>>>>> I'm > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wondering > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some release criteria for it? > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Problem I can imagine is like, when > the > > > > > > > > >>> code > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> freeze > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> date > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> is > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reached, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but there are still many ZK removal tasks > > > > > > > > >>> open, > > > > > > > > >>>>>> what > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> should > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> we > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> do > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them? We can remove the rest of codes in > > > later > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> releases, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> but > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> if > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> there > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still some public APIs related to ZK open > > for > > > > > > > > >>>>>> users to > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> use, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> is > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK to release 4.0? Ex: The `--zookeeper` > > > > > > > > >>> option > > > > > > > > >>>> in > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> kafka-configs.sh? > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of only using time-based > management > > > in > > > > > > > > >>>>>> v4.0, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I'm > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should list some "must-do" tasks and > track > > > > > > > > >>> them > > > > > > > > >>>>>> when > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> milestone > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> date > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approaches. And we can discuss with the > > > > > > > > >>> community > > > > > > > > >>>>>> if > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> there > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> are > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> some > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delayed > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks. Does that make sense? > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:29 PM David > Jacot > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have drafted the release plan for > Apache > > > > > > > > >>>> Kafka > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 4.0.0: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Release+Plan+4.0.0 > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> . > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please take a look and let me know what > > you > > > > > > > > >>>>>> think. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would also appreciate it if you could > > > > > > > > >>> review > > > > > > > > >>>>>> the > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> list > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> of > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> KIPs > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will ship in this release. I took the > list > > > > > > > > >>> from > > > > > > > > >>>>>> the > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> approved > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> list > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki but I am pretty sure that the list > is > > > > > > > > >>> not > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> accurate. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davud > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 5:02 AM Luke > Chen > > < > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> show...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 from me. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since v4.0 will be a huge change > release, > > > > > > > > >>> I'm > > > > > > > > >>>>>> not > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> sure > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> if > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> you > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person (vice release manager?) to help > on > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> releasing > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> tasks. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, I'm willing to help. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 1:33 AM Colin > > > > > > > > >>> McCabe > > > > > > > > >>>> < > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> cmcc...@apache.org > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1. Thanks, David. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, at 10:11, Chris > > > > > > > > >>>> Egerton > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! +1 > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, 13:07 José > > > > > > > > >>> Armando > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> García > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Sancio > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid> > wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks for volunteering David! > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 11:56 AM > > > > > > > > >>> David > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Arthur < > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mum...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, thanks David! > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 11:48 AM > > > > > > > > >>>> Satish > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Duggana < > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satish.dugg...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for volunteering! > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Sept 2024 at 19:27, > > > > > > > > >>>> Lianet > > > > > > > > >>>>>> M. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> < > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liane...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David! > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, 9:54 a.m. > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Justine > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Olshan > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jols...@confluent.io.invalid> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks! > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at > > > > > > > > >>> 6:36 AM > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Chia-Ping > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Tsai > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chia7...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 and thanks David for > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> volunteering! > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chia-Ping > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josep Prat > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 於 > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024年9月23日 > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 週一 > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 下午9:13寫道： > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks David for > > > > > > > > >>>> volunteering! > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at > > > > > > > > >>>>>> 3:11 PM > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> David > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Jacot > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dja...@confluent.io.invalid > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to > > > > > > > > >>> volunteer > > > > > > > > >>>>>> to be > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> release > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manager > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driving > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release - Apache Kafka > > > > > > > > >>>>>> 4.0.0. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are no > > > > > > > > >>>> objections, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I'll > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> start > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building a > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the next couple of > > > > > > > > >>>> days. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aiven] < > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://www.aiven.io/ > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Josep Prat* > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source Engineering > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Director, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> *Aiven* > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> josep.p...@aiven.io | > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> +491715557497 > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aiven.io < > > > > > > > > >>>>>> https://www.aiven.io/> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> | > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> < > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/aivencloud > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/aiven/ > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> < > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> https://twitter.com/aiven_io> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aiven Deutschland GmbH* > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Berlin > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geschäftsführer: Oskari > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Saarenmaa, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hannu > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Valtonen, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anna Richardson, Kenneth > > > > > > > > >>>> Chen > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amtsgericht > > > > > > > > >>> Charlottenburg, > > > > > > > > >>>>>> HRB > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> 209739 > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> B > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Arthur > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -José > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
