Thanks for the updates. The latest KIP LGTM.

On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 8:38 AM Gantigmaa Selenge <gsele...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Thanks for reviewing the KIP again! I have updated it to address the latest
> comments from Colin and Jose.
>
> Going back to Jose's earlier comment here:
> > Did you consider making "includeFencedBroker" field value implicitly
> based on the DescribeClusterRequest version and the EndpointType? For
> example, if the request version is 2 and the endpoint type is broker,
> the response will include all of the brokers and if they are fenced or
> unfenced. I am suggesting this because a request of endpointType
> controller and includeFencedBroker true doesn't make sense. In
> general, users of the AdminClient cannot easily discover the API
> versions supported by the destination node since the destination node
> may not be known when the admin call is made.
>
> I think admins would request fenced brokers only in certain scenarios, so
> perhaps it makes sense to include them only when requested via the new
> option. If the endpoint type is controller and the option to include fenced
> brokers set to true, the Admin Client can throw an
> "IllegalArgumentException" without sending the request to the controller.
>
> If you are happy with the updates I made, I would like to start the vote on
> this KIP. Thank you.
>
> Regards,
> Gantigmaa
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 9:51 PM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Gantigmaa Selenge,
> >
> > I think we should have a boolean in the request like "includeFenced" which
> > defaults to false. Then if we can't include the fenced brokers, we throw an
> > UnsupportedVersionException and fall back to the old behavior.
> >
> > There are two main reasons for this:
> > 1. if we don't do this, we're changing the behavior for old clients in an
> > incompatible way. They used to get only unfenced brokers, now they get both
> > and they have no way of telling which is which.
> >
> > 2. new clients still would like to know whether they're getting
> > everything, or just unfenced brokers, for informational reasons.
> >
> > Probably the command-line tool could print out something like "fenced
> > brokers will not be shown" in the case where it's talking to an old server.
> > Or the tool could have a flag like --show-fenced which fails if it can't be
> > done?
> >
> > best,
> > Colin
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 13, 2024, at 08:28, José Armando García Sancio wrote:
> > > Thanks Gantigmaa. See comments below. The KIP LGTM after this.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 4:50 AM Gantigmaa Selenge <gsele...@redhat.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> Will this make it more confusing for combined nodes? Users might expect
> > to
> > >> see both controller and broker under ROLES if it is a combined node.
> > Since
> > >> we would be able to output only one depending on the bootstrap option, I
> > >> wonder if it's better to stay consistent with the information in the
> > result
> > >> returned by the API.
> > >
> > > How about ENDPOINT-TYPE for the column name? That matches the keyword
> > > used in the request and better matches the semantic of the output.
> > >
> > > Also, I am okay if you want to leave it out. I thought the user may
> > > find it useful but if you find it confusing we can leave it out.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > --
> > > -José
> >
> >



-- 
-José

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