Hi Justine,

I know we discarded parallel branching, but it was under the scope of 3.8.0
and with the KIPs no yet approved.
We could also not do a parallel release, but rather "quick" 3.9 and then
start with 4.0.

Best
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Open Source Engineering Director, Aiven
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On Thu, Jun 13, 2024, 22:08 Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io> wrote:

> Hi Sophie,
>
> I have a call tomorrow with José to clarify the estimates for KIP-853.
> I also wouldn't like to delay the release for a month or more.
>
> Regarding your proposal, I find it would be a good way forward, +1 from my
> side.
>
>
> I also find this release and what should include is a hot topic.
> What do others think?
>
> Best,
>
> ----------------
> Josep Prat
> Open Source Engineering Director, Aiven josep.p...@aiven.io   |
> +491715557497 | aiven.io
> Aiven Deutschland GmbH
> Alexanderufer 3-7, 10117 Berlin
> Geschäftsführer: Oskari Saarenmaa & Hannu Valtonen
> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 209739 B
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2024, 21:23 Sophie Blee-Goldman <sop...@responsive.dev>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey all -- was just wondering where we currently stand Re: delaying 3. for
>> the KRaft KIPs vs doing a 3.9 release
>>
>> I know we don't want to have to wait for a whole release cycle to ship
>> these KRaft features, but delaying 3.8 up to month is also rather
>> difficult
>> to swallow. I just wanted to throw an unusual idea out there and see if
>> this might be a possible compromise, or is out of the question:
>>
>> What if we proceed with the 3.8 release as-is, without these KIPs, but
>> rather than doing 3.9 in another 3 months we continue on with the plan to
>> ship 4.0 in the fall and simply do a very small 3.9 release just for the
>> KRaft KIPs once they are finished?
>>
>> I know this breaks our usual release cycle and may be confusing to some
>> users, but many of us are waiting on things being shipped in 3.8 and
>> delaying it by another month (perhaps more) feels unfair. At the same
>> time,
>> I understand the need to ship these KRaft KIPs before 4.0 and that there
>> are others who would consider it unfair if the KRaft KIPs were delayed
>> until the next release cycle. So it seems like an easy win-win to make
>> everyone happy by shipping 3.8 now and shipping the KRaft KIPs whenever
>> they are ready. This also removes the pressure on these KIPs to rush
>> everything in or cut scope, and would give them some breathing room to
>> take
>> the time they need.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 11:44 PM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > We are now past the code freeze for the 3.8.0 release. If you think a
>> > commit should be backported to the 3.8 branch, please ping me in the PR
>> > (@jlprat).
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 7:22 PM José Armando García Sancio
>> > <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Josep,
>> > >
>> > > See my comment below.
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 1:17 PM Josep Prat
>> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > How long do you think it will take to bring KIP-853 to completion?
>> > >
>> > > We are still missing a few issues/jiras that need to get implemented
>> > > for the feature to be usable. I would say a few more weeks. May be
>> > > early July or mid July.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > --
>> > > -José
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> >
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>> > Open Source Engineering Director, *Aiven*
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>> >
>>
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