Hi Sophie,

I have a call tomorrow with José to clarify the estimates for KIP-853.
I also wouldn't like to delay the release for a month or more.

Regarding your proposal, I find it would be a good way forward, +1 from my
side.


I also find this release and what should include is a hot topic.
What do others think?

Best,

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On Thu, Jun 13, 2024, 21:23 Sophie Blee-Goldman <sop...@responsive.dev>
wrote:

> Hey all -- was just wondering where we currently stand Re: delaying 3. for
> the KRaft KIPs vs doing a 3.9 release
>
> I know we don't want to have to wait for a whole release cycle to ship
> these KRaft features, but delaying 3.8 up to month is also rather difficult
> to swallow. I just wanted to throw an unusual idea out there and see if
> this might be a possible compromise, or is out of the question:
>
> What if we proceed with the 3.8 release as-is, without these KIPs, but
> rather than doing 3.9 in another 3 months we continue on with the plan to
> ship 4.0 in the fall and simply do a very small 3.9 release just for the
> KRaft KIPs once they are finished?
>
> I know this breaks our usual release cycle and may be confusing to some
> users, but many of us are waiting on things being shipped in 3.8 and
> delaying it by another month (perhaps more) feels unfair. At the same time,
> I understand the need to ship these KRaft KIPs before 4.0 and that there
> are others who would consider it unfair if the KRaft KIPs were delayed
> until the next release cycle. So it seems like an easy win-win to make
> everyone happy by shipping 3.8 now and shipping the KRaft KIPs whenever
> they are ready. This also removes the pressure on these KIPs to rush
> everything in or cut scope, and would give them some breathing room to take
> the time they need.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 11:44 PM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We are now past the code freeze for the 3.8.0 release. If you think a
> > commit should be backported to the 3.8 branch, please ping me in the PR
> > (@jlprat).
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 7:22 PM José Armando García Sancio
> > <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Josep,
> > >
> > > See my comment below.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 1:17 PM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > > How long do you think it will take to bring KIP-853 to completion?
> > >
> > > We are still missing a few issues/jiras that need to get implemented
> > > for the feature to be usable. I would say a few more weeks. May be
> > > early July or mid July.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > --
> > > -José
> > >
> >
> >
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