Nice KIP. some minor comments/questions are listed below.

1) It seems we can disable the sync of idle consumers by setting 
`sync.group.offsets.interval.seconds` to -1, so the fail-fast should include 
sync.group.offsets.interval.seconds too. For another, maybe we should do 
fail-fast for MirrorCheckpointConnector even though we don't have this KIP

2) Should we do similar fail-fast for MirrorSourceConnector if user set custom 
producer configs with emit.offset-syncs.enabled=false? I assume the producer 
which sending records to offset-syncs topic won't be created if 
emit.offset-syncs.enabled=false

3) Should we simplify the SourceRecord if emit.offset-syncs.enabled=false? 
Maybe that can get a bit performance improvement.

Best,
Chia-Ping

On 2024/04/08 10:03:50 Omnia Ibrahim wrote:
> Hi Chris, 
> Validation method is a good call. I updated the KIP to state that the 
> checkpoint connector will fail if the configs aren’t correct. And updated the 
> description of the new config to explain the impact of it on checkpoint 
> connector as well. 
> 
> If there is no any other feedback from anyone I would like to start the 
> voting thread in few days. 
> Thanks 
> Omnia
> 
> > On 8 Apr 2024, at 06:31, Chris Egerton <chr...@aiven.io.INVALID> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Omnia,
> > 
> > Ah, good catch. I think failing to start the checkpoint connector if offset
> > syncs are disabled is fine. We'd probably want to do that via the
> > Connector::validate [1] method in order to be able to catch invalid configs
> > during preflight validation, but it's not necessary to get that specific in
> > the KIP (especially since we may add other checks as well).
> > 
> > [1] -
> > https://kafka.apache.org/37/javadoc/org/apache/kafka/connect/connector/Connector.html#validate(java.util.Map)
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 8:07 PM Omnia Ibrahim <o.g.h.ibra...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> Thanks Chris for the feedback
> >>> 1. It'd be nice to mention that increasing the max offset lag to INT_MAX
> >>> could work as a partial workaround for users on existing versions (though
> >>> of course this wouldn't prevent creation of the syncs topic).
> >> I updated the KIP
> >> 
> >>> 2. Will it be illegal to disable offset syncs if other features that rely
> >>> on offset syncs are explicitly enabled in the connector config? If
> >> they're
> >>> not explicitly enabled then it should probably be fine to silently
> >> disable
> >>> them, but I'd be interested in your thoughts.
> >> The rest of the features that relays on this is controlled by
> >> emit.checkpoints.enabled (enabled by default) and
> >> sync.group.offsets.enabled (disabled by default) which are part of
> >> MirrorCheckpointConnector config not MirrorSourceConnector, I was thinking
> >> that MirrorCheckpointConnector should fail to start if
> >> emit.offset-syncs.enabled is disabled while emit.checkpoints.enabled and/or
> >> sync.group.offsets.enabled are enabled as no point of creating this
> >> connector if the main part is disabled. WDYT?
> >> 
> >> Thanks
> >> Omnia
> >> 
> >>> On 3 Apr 2024, at 12:45, Chris Egerton <fearthecel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Omnia,
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks for the KIP! Two small things come to mind:
> >>> 
> >>> 1. It'd be nice to mention that increasing the max offset lag to INT_MAX
> >>> could work as a partial workaround for users on existing versions (though
> >>> of course this wouldn't prevent creation of the syncs topic).
> >>> 
> >>> 2. Will it be illegal to disable offset syncs if other features that rely
> >>> on offset syncs are explicitly enabled in the connector config? If
> >> they're
> >>> not explicitly enabled then it should probably be fine to silently
> >> disable
> >>> them, but I'd be interested in your thoughts.
> >>> 
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> 
> >>> Chris
> >>> 
> >>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2024, 20:41 Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> Hi Omnia,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thanks for the KIP!
> >>>> It LGTM!
> >>>> But I'm not an expert of MM2, it would be good to see if there is any
> >> other
> >>>> comment from MM2 experts.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>> Luke
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 6:08 PM Omnia Ibrahim <o.g.h.ibra...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Hi everyone, I would like to start a discussion thread for KIP-1031:
> >>>>> Control offset translation in MirrorSourceConnector
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1031%3A+Control+offset+translation+in+MirrorSourceConnector
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>> Omnia
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >> 
> >> 
> 
> 

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