Elkhan, do you think making yours similar would make sense?

On Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 4:12 AM hudeqi <16120...@bjtu.edu.cn> wrote:

> Hey, Viktor.
> As far as my implementation is concerned, the default setting is 30s, but
> I added it to `MirrorConnectorConfig`, which can be adjusted freely
> according to the load of the source cluster and the number of tasks.
>
> best,
> hudeqi
>
> &quot;Viktor Somogyi-Vass&quot; &lt;viktor.somo...@cloudera.com.INVALID
> &gt;写道:
> > Hey Elkhan and hudeqi,
> >
> > I'm reading your debate around the implementation. I also think a
> > scheduled task would be better in overall accuracy and performance
> > (compared to calling endOffsets with every poll).
> > Hudeqi, do you have any experience of what works best for you in terms of
> > time intervals? I would think refreshing the metric every 5-10sec would
> be
> > overall good and sufficient for the users (as short intervals can be
> quite
> > noisy anyways).
> >
> > Best,
> > Viktor
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 11:41 AM hudeqi <16120...@bjtu.edu.cn> wrote:
> >
> > > My approach is to create another thread to regularly request and update
> > > the end offset of each partition for the `keySet` in the collection
> > > `lastReplicatedSourceOffsets` mentioned by your kip (if there is no
> update
> > > for a long time, it will be removed from
> `lastReplicatedSourceOffsets`).
> > > Obviously, such processing makes the calculation of the partition
> offset
> > > lag less real-time and accurate.
> > > But this also meets our needs, because we need the partition offset
> lag to
> > > analyze the replication performance of the task and which task may have
> > > performance problems; and if you monitor the overall offset lag of the
> > > topic, then using the
> > > "kafka_consumer_consumer_fetch_manager_metrics_records_lag" metric
> will be
> > > more real-time and accurate.
> > > This is my suggestion. I hope to be able to throw bricks and start
> jade,
> > > we can come up with a better solution.
> > >
> > > best,
> > > hudeqi
> > >
> > > &quot;Elxan Eminov&quot; &lt;elxanemino...@gmail.com&gt;写道:
> > > > @huqedi replying to your comment on the PR (
> > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/14077#discussion_r1314592488),
> > > quote:
> > > >
> > > > "I guess we have a disagreement about lag? My understanding of lag
> is:
> > > the
> > > > real LEO of the source cluster partition minus the LEO that has been
> > > > written to the target cluster. It seems that your definition of lag
> is:
> > > the
> > > > lag between the mirror task getting data from consumption and
> writing it
> > > to
> > > > the target cluster?"
> > > >
> > > > Yes, this is the case. I've missed the fact that the consumer itself
> > > might
> > > > be lagging behind the actual data in the partition.
> > > > I believe your definition of the lag is more precise, but:
> > > > Implementing it this way will come at the cost of an extra
> listOffsets
> > > > request, introducing the overhead that you mentioned in your initial
> > > > comment.
> > > >
> > > > If you have enough insights about this, what would you say is the
> chances
> > > > of the task consumer lagging behind the LEO of the partition?
> > > > Are they big enough to justify the extra call to listOffsets?
> > > > @Viktor,  any thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Elkhan
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 4 Sept 2023 at 09:36, Elxan Eminov <elxanemino...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I already have the PR for this so if it will make it easier to
> discuss,
> > > > > feel free to take a look:
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/14077
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 4 Sept 2023 at 09:17, hudeqi <16120...@bjtu.edu.cn> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> But does the offset of the last `ConsumerRecord` obtained in poll
> not
> > > > >> only represent the offset of this record in the source cluster? It
> > > seems
> > > > >> that it cannot represent the LEO of the source cluster for this
> > > partition.
> > > > >> I understand that the offset lag introduced here should be the
> LEO of
> > > the
> > > > >> source cluster minus the offset of the last record to be polled?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> best,
> > > > >> hudeqi
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> &gt; -----原始邮件-----
> > > > >> &gt; 发件人: "Elxan Eminov" <elxanemino...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> &gt; 发送时间: 2023-09-04 14:52:08 (星期一)
> > > > >> &gt; 收件人: dev@kafka.apache.org
> > > > >> &gt; 抄送:
> > > > >> &gt; 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-971 Expose replication-offset-lag
> > > MirrorMaker2
> > > > >> metric
> > > > >> &gt;
> > > > >> </elxanemino...@gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
>

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