Sophie, Why not also deprecate Producer.sendOffsetsToTransaction​ method variant with the consumerGroupId​ parameter?
This would encourage non-Streams EOS users to move to beta/v2 implementations, and the fallback to alpha/v1 mode code can also be removed in 4.0. ________________________________ From: Sophie Blee-Goldman <sop...@confluent.io.INVALID> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 4:38 PM To: dev <dev@kafka.apache.org> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-732: Deprecate eos-alpha and replace eos-beta with eos-v2 Thanks all. I've updated the KIP to clarify these will be removed in 4.0, and added a note about logging a warning as well. I agree that some users may set the config value directly and could miss the deprecation notice. I'll call for a vote today since there seems to be consensus, but please let me know if you have any more late-breaking ideas -Sophie On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 1:36 PM Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk> wrote: > Hey John, > > Yes, we should definitely do that. It's meant to be the standard procedure > for configs that are deprecated. > > Ismael > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 12:02 PM John Roesler <vvcep...@apache.org> wrote: > > > Hello again, Sophie, > > > > I've just had a late-breaking thought about your KIP. It > > might be worthwhile also printing a WARN log when the > > deprecated configs are used. People may not always be > > referencing the StreamsConfig fields in their source code > > when they set these configs, so it would be good to make an > > extra effort to raise the visibility of this deprecation. > > > > Thanks, > > -John > > > > On Wed, 2021-04-14 at 10:47 -0700, Guozhang Wang wrote: > > > Thanks Sophie for writing the KIP! I'm +1 on the proposal. > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 8:56 AM Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks Sophie. This makes sense to me. One question: do we want to be > > a bit > > > > clearer about the removal plans? That is, can we say that the > > deprecated > > > > configs will be removed in 4.0 (instead of likely to be removed)? The > > > > implication would be that exactly-once would only work with 2.5+ > while > > at > > > > least once would work with all versions. 4.0 is probably 1.5-2 years > > away, > > > > so this seems reasonable to me. > > > > > > > > Ismael > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 7:53 PM Sophie Blee-Goldman > > > > <sop...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hey all, > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to kick off discussion on a small KIP to move towards a > > unified > > > > > EOS and clean up the current options. Please give it a pass and let > > me > > > > know > > > > > what you think. > > > > > > > > > > KIP-732: Deprecate eos-alpha and replace eos-beta with eos-v2 > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcwiki.apache.org%2Fconfluence%2Fdisplay%2FKAFKA%2FKIP-732%253A%2BDeprecate%2Beos-alpha%2Band%2Breplace%2Beos-beta%2Bwith%2Beos-v2&data=04%7C01%7Cgrussell%40vmware.com%7Ce6b018cadb2a430f68fc08d8ff853e59%7Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0%7C0%7C0%7C637540295032222538%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=h5heHaemAR70PbdKJu1NzCLchMfHLUDel%2BDSnR80S%2Bs%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > > > > > > KAFKA-12574: Deprecate eos-alpha > > > > > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fissues.apache.org%2Fjira%2Fbrowse%2FKAFKA-12574&data=04%7C01%7Cgrussell%40vmware.com%7Ce6b018cadb2a430f68fc08d8ff853e59%7Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0%7C0%7C0%7C637540295032222538%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=mNS1c%2BackYwumSJUZlU5R92HokWB6vUs%2FNkR%2BeZ0GSY%3D&reserved=0> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Sophie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >