Fair enough. I will isolate KIP-706 later.

On 2021/01/30 20:18:42 Ismael Juma wrote:
> I agree with Jason and would rather tackle this as one KIP and the error
> handling in another. The error handling can follow this one once we agree
> on the method signatures. Furthermore, we should align with the longer term
> plan for the AdminClient that returns KafkaFuture today.
> 
> Ismael
> 
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 11:40 AM Chia-Ping Tsai <chia7...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> > I'd like to merge KIP-706 to KIP-691 as it can bring a comprehensive
> > design for both new API and exception. The new exception should be included
> > by the new API also.
> >
> > On 2021/01/30 19:30:40, Jason Gustafson <ja...@confluent.io> wrote:
> > > I think this still makes sense as a separate KIP. For KIP-691, we are
> > just
> > > looking to help define the error contract for the new API.
> > >
> > > -Jason
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 8:39 AM Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Are we saying that we won't pursue this KIP in favor of the other one?
> > > >
> > > > Ismael
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2021, 4:15 AM Chia-Ping Tsai <chia7...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > hi Jason
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your response. "transmit" is good to me.
> > > > >
> > > > > As we discussed by email, KIP-706 is going to be merged to KIP-691(
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/PSfZCQ). Hence, please feel
> > free
> > > > to
> > > > > replace "produce" by "transmit" in KIP-691.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Chia-Ping
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2021/01/30 00:48:38, Jason Gustafson <ja...@confluent.io> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Chia-Ping,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think this is a great idea. It is a pity that we cannot continue
> > to
> > > > use
> > > > > > the `send` verb, but I don't see how we can. I know we considered
> > > > > > `transmit` as another option which is closer to `send`. That would
> > > > avoid
> > > > > > the redundancy when people choose the common "producer" variable
> > name.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > producer.transmit
> > > > > >
> > > > > > instead of
> > > > > >
> > > > > > producer.produce
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A couple alternatives might be `write` or `append`. I'm happy with
> > > > > > `produce` as well, but curious if others have thoughts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Jason
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 9:37 AM Chia-Ping Tsai <
> > chia7...@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd like to start the discussion thread for KIP-706:
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=100829459
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > KIP-706 is proposing to introduce new API "CompletionStage
> > > > > > > produce(record)" to Producer. Kafka users can leverage
> > > > CompletionStage
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > write asynchronous non-blocking code. CompletionStage is more
> > > > powerful
> > > > > than
> > > > > > > Future and callback. Also, the code using Future and callback
> > can be
> > > > > easily
> > > > > > > re-written by CompletionStage.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Chia-Ping
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 

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