Interesting idea. A couple of things to consider:

1. Would we introduce the Message concept to the Consumer too? I think
that's what .NET does.
2. If we eventually allow a send to a topic id instead of topic name, would
that result in two additional overloads?

Ismael

On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 11:38 AM Jason Gustafson <ja...@confluent.io> wrote:

> For the sake of having another option to shoot down, we could take a page
> from the .net client and separate the message data from the destination
> (i.e. topic or partition). This would get around the need to use a new
> verb. For example:
>
> CompletionStage<RecordMetadata> send(String topic, Message message);
> CompletionStage<RecordMetadata> send(TopicPartition topicPartition, Message
> message);
>
> -Jason
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 11:30 AM Jason Gustafson <ja...@confluent.io>
> wrote:
>
> > I think this still makes sense as a separate KIP. For KIP-691, we are
> just
> > looking to help define the error contract for the new API.
> >
> > -Jason
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 8:39 AM Ismael Juma <ism...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Are we saying that we won't pursue this KIP in favor of the other one?
> >>
> >> Ismael
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jan 30, 2021, 4:15 AM Chia-Ping Tsai <chia7...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > hi Jason
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for your response. "transmit" is good to me.
> >> >
> >> > As we discussed by email, KIP-706 is going to be merged to KIP-691(
> >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/PSfZCQ). Hence, please feel
> free
> >> to
> >> > replace "produce" by "transmit" in KIP-691.
> >> >
> >> > Best,
> >> > Chia-Ping
> >> >
> >> > On 2021/01/30 00:48:38, Jason Gustafson <ja...@confluent.io> wrote:
> >> > > Hi Chia-Ping,
> >> > >
> >> > > I think this is a great idea. It is a pity that we cannot continue
> to
> >> use
> >> > > the `send` verb, but I don't see how we can. I know we considered
> >> > > `transmit` as another option which is closer to `send`. That would
> >> avoid
> >> > > the redundancy when people choose the common "producer" variable
> name.
> >> > >
> >> > > producer.transmit
> >> > >
> >> > > instead of
> >> > >
> >> > > producer.produce
> >> > >
> >> > > A couple alternatives might be `write` or `append`. I'm happy with
> >> > > `produce` as well, but curious if others have thoughts.
> >> > >
> >> > > -Jason
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 9:37 AM Chia-Ping Tsai <chia7...@apache.org
> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Dear all,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I'd like to start the discussion thread for KIP-706:
> >> > > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=100829459
> >> > > >
> >> > > > KIP-706 is proposing to introduce new API "CompletionStage
> >> > > > produce(record)" to Producer. Kafka users can leverage
> >> CompletionStage
> >> > to
> >> > > > write asynchronous non-blocking code. CompletionStage is more
> >> powerful
> >> > than
> >> > > > Future and callback. Also, the code using Future and callback can
> be
> >> > easily
> >> > > > re-written by CompletionStage.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Cheers,
> >> > > > Chia-Ping
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

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