Thanks for updating the KIP.

+1 (binding)


-Matthias

On 1/27/21 10:19 AM, Bruno Cadonna wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Thanks for voting!
> 
> I updated the KIP with some additional feedback I got.
> 
> If I do not hear anything from folks that have already voted in the next
> couple of days, I will assume their vote is still valid. You can also
> confirm your vote if you want.
> 
> KIP: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/7CnZCQ
> 
> Best,
> Bruno
> 
> On 26.01.21 02:19, Sophie Blee-Goldman wrote:
>> Thanks for the KIP Bruno, +1 (binding)
>>
>> Sophie
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 11:23 AM Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Bruno,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your response!
>>>
>>> 1) Yup I'm good with option a) as well.
>>> 2) Thanks!
>>> 3) Sounds good to me. I think it would not change any StreamThread
>>> implementation regarding capturing exceptions from consumer.poll()
>>> since it
>>> captures StreamsException as fatal.
>>>
>>>
>>> Guozhang
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 4:43 AM Bruno Cadonna <br...@confluent.io>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Guozhang,
>>>>
>>>> Thank for the feedback!
>>>>
>>>> Please find my answers inline.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Bruno
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 14.12.20 23:33, Guozhang Wang wrote:
>>>>> Hello Bruno,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a few more questions about the KIP:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) If the internal topics exist but the calculated num.partitions do
>>> not
>>>>> match the existing topics, what would Streams do;
>>>>
>>>> Good point! I missed to explicitly consider misconfigurations in the
>>>> KIP.
>>>>
>>>> I propose to throw a fatal error in this case during manual and
>>>> automatic initialization. For the fatal error, we have two options:
>>>> a) introduce a second exception besides MissingInternalTopicException,
>>>> e.g. MisconfiguredInternalTopicException
>>>> b) rename MissingInternalTopicException to
>>>> MissingOrMisconfiguredInternalTopicException and throw that in both
>>> cases.
>>>>
>>>> Since the process to react on such an exception user-side should be
>>>> similar, I am fine with option b). However, IMO option a) is a bit
>>>> cleaner. WDYT?
>>>>
>>>>> 2) Since `init()` is a blocking call (we only return after all topics
>>> are
>>>>> confirmed to be created), should we have a timeout for this call as
>>> well
>>>> or
>>>>> not;
>>>>
>>>> I will add an overload with a timeout to the KIP.
>>>>
>>>>> 3) If the configure is set to `MANUAL_SETUP`, then during rebalance do
>>> we
>>>>> still check if number of partitions of the existing topic match or
>>>>> not;
>>>> if
>>>>> not, do we throw the newly added exception or throw a fatal
>>>>> StreamsException? Today we would throw the StreamsException from
>>> assign()
>>>>> which would be then thrown from consumer.poll() as a fatal error.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I think we should check if the number of partitions match. I
>>>> propose to throw the newly added exception in the same way as we throw
>>>> now the MissingSourceTopicException, i.e., throw it from
>>>> consumer.poll(). WDYT?
>>>>
>>>>> Guozhang
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 12:47 PM John Roesler <vvcep...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Bruno!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm +1 (binding)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 2020-12-14 at 09:57 -0600, Leah Thomas wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks for the KIP Bruno, LGTM. +1 (non-binding)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Leah
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 4:29 AM Bruno Cadonna <br...@confluent.io>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd like to start the voting on KIP-698 that proposes an explicit
>>> user
>>>>>>>> initialization of broker-side state for Kafka Streams instead of
>>>>>> letting
>>>>>>>> Kafka Streams setting up the broker-side state automatically during
>>>>>>>> rebalance. Such an explicit initialization avoids possible data
>>>>>>>> loss
>>>>>>>> issues due to automatic initialization.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/7CnZCQ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Bruno
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> -- Guozhang
>>>
>>

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