Thanks for the KIP Bruno, +1 (binding)

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On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 11:23 AM Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Bruno,
>
> Thanks for your response!
>
> 1) Yup I'm good with option a) as well.
> 2) Thanks!
> 3) Sounds good to me. I think it would not change any StreamThread
> implementation regarding capturing exceptions from consumer.poll() since it
> captures StreamsException as fatal.
>
>
> Guozhang
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 4:43 AM Bruno Cadonna <br...@confluent.io> wrote:
>
> > Hi Guozhang,
> >
> > Thank for the feedback!
> >
> > Please find my answers inline.
> >
> > Best,
> > Bruno
> >
> >
> > On 14.12.20 23:33, Guozhang Wang wrote:
> > > Hello Bruno,
> > >
> > > Just a few more questions about the KIP:
> > >
> > > 1) If the internal topics exist but the calculated num.partitions do
> not
> > > match the existing topics, what would Streams do;
> >
> > Good point! I missed to explicitly consider misconfigurations in the KIP.
> >
> > I propose to throw a fatal error in this case during manual and
> > automatic initialization. For the fatal error, we have two options:
> > a) introduce a second exception besides MissingInternalTopicException,
> > e.g. MisconfiguredInternalTopicException
> > b) rename MissingInternalTopicException to
> > MissingOrMisconfiguredInternalTopicException and throw that in both
> cases.
> >
> > Since the process to react on such an exception user-side should be
> > similar, I am fine with option b). However, IMO option a) is a bit
> > cleaner. WDYT?
> >
> > > 2) Since `init()` is a blocking call (we only return after all topics
> are
> > > confirmed to be created), should we have a timeout for this call as
> well
> > or
> > > not;
> >
> > I will add an overload with a timeout to the KIP.
> >
> > > 3) If the configure is set to `MANUAL_SETUP`, then during rebalance do
> we
> > > still check if number of partitions of the existing topic match or not;
> > if
> > > not, do we throw the newly added exception or throw a fatal
> > > StreamsException? Today we would throw the StreamsException from
> assign()
> > > which would be then thrown from consumer.poll() as a fatal error.
> > >
> >
> > Yes, I think we should check if the number of partitions match. I
> > propose to throw the newly added exception in the same way as we throw
> > now the MissingSourceTopicException, i.e., throw it from
> > consumer.poll(). WDYT?
> >
> > > Guozhang
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 12:47 PM John Roesler <vvcep...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thanks, Bruno!
> > >>
> > >> I'm +1 (binding)
> > >>
> > >> -John
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, 2020-12-14 at 09:57 -0600, Leah Thomas wrote:
> > >>> Thanks for the KIP Bruno, LGTM. +1 (non-binding)
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers,
> > >>> Leah
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 4:29 AM Bruno Cadonna <br...@confluent.io>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hi,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'd like to start the voting on KIP-698 that proposes an explicit
> user
> > >>>> initialization of broker-side state for Kafka Streams instead of
> > >> letting
> > >>>> Kafka Streams setting up the broker-side state automatically during
> > >>>> rebalance. Such an explicit initialization avoids possible data loss
> > >>>> issues due to automatic initialization.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/7CnZCQ
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Best,
> > >>>> Bruno
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> -- Guozhang
>

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