I agree with Andrey. The product should be identical regardless of how you
download and install it.

On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 7:18 AM, Andrey Gura <ag...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I think we should provide the same default configuration for all
> binary builds. From my point of view RPM/DEB/etc packages should use
> default configuration file like to standard binary release.
>
> On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 4:39 PM, Ilya Kasnacheev
> <ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello Igniters!
> >
> > What's your take on enabling PDS in 2.4 in default config? This way we
> > could enable it in RPM build with easy heart.
> >
> > The rest of your answers seem spot on. I'll happily review your amended
> > patch when it is ready (later this week?)
> >
> > --
> > Ilya Kasnacheev
> >
> > 2017-12-22 18:27 GMT+03:00 vveider <mr.wei...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> Ilya Kasnacheev wrote
> >> > I have noticed that both spec and DEVNOTES are made to use tabs
> alongside
> >> > with spaces. I thought we are avoiding tabs? Please confirm that
> usage of
> >> > tabs is desired in this case.
> >>
> >> My fault - got used to editing such files in default vim. Fixed and
> updated
> >> vim settings to indent with spaces.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ilya Kasnacheev wrote
> >> > Maybe it's my CentOS but initially build will fail with the following
> >> > message, which I had to fix in spec
> >> > + cd 'apache-ignite-*'
> >> > /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.KwOoyl: line 34: cd: apache-ignite-*: No such file or
> >> > directory
> >>
> >> Strange error - shell expansion is not working. Anyway, replaced with
> more
> >> universal variant.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ilya Kasnacheev wrote
> >> > We absolutely should not inline configuration files (such as
> >> > default-config.xml) into build scripts. We should just copy over
> >> > default-config.xml from config/ to /etc, with dependencies if needed.
> >>
> >> Extracted corresponding sections into separate files.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ilya Kasnacheev wrote
> >> > I'm not sure PDS should be ON by default. Better provide it in
> examples
> >> > but disable by default.
> >>
> >> AFAIK, PDS is actively pushing forward and has to be enabled by default
> so
> >> that Ignite users start working with PDS from the very beginning.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ilya Kasnacheev wrote
> >> > I cannot comment on firewall rules validity, but firewall and service
> >> > configurations should be stored in sources, as files, supplied with
> >> > release (somewhere in packages/) and installed from there
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, I did not find any other way to open ports and multicast,
> >> except applying direct iptables rules though firewall-cmd -- so there
> can
> >> be
> >> no separate service firewall rules file (as can be found here:
> >> /usr/lib/firewalld/services). Applied rules from package go straight to
> >> /etc/firewalld/direct.xml. If we agree not to put Multicast-enabled by
> >> default configuration file and will stick to IP Discovery, I'll try to
> >> revise firewall configuration and create separate service firewall rules
> >> file (but, I guess, much later).
> >>
> >>
> >> Ilya Kasnacheev wrote
> >> > * sqlline.sh fails to connect initially, needs to be specified
> >> > jdbc:ignite:thin://localhost, then it works. I think that sqlline
> should
> >> > become available as /usr/bin/apache-ignite-sqlline for example, to be
> in
> >> > $PATH. And figure out how to connect by itself.
> >> > * ignitevisorcmd.sh becomes confused. first it scans
> >> > /usr/share/apache-ignite for configs, then it fails to write to
> >> > /usr/share/apache-ignite/work. We should consider how it can be fixed
> (a
> >> > symlink from /usr/share/apache-ignite/config to /etc/apache-ignite,
> >> > perhaps, and work dir in /tmp?), and made available as
> >> > /usr/bin/apache-ignite-visorcmd.
> >>
> >> The problem exists mainly because of sqlline.sh|ignitevisorcmd.sh
> >> unaware-of-package design and I see the following 3-step way to overcome
> >> this limitation.
> >> At first we hide this executables file in examples (As Iliya proposed).
> >> Secondly, I can design a patch, which can be applied during package
> build,
> >> so that those executables work normally form the package installation.
> >> And lastly, redesign them to be universal and compatible with all
> delivery
> >> methods.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ilya Kasnacheev wrote
> >> > Not everything should go into /usr/share. classpath libs belong to
> >> > /usr/lib.
> >>
> >> Moved libs to /usr/lib/apache-ignite and mapped to
> >> /usr/share/apache-ignite/libs (for backward compatibility). I guess
> later
> >> we
> >> have to think out of a solution to load libs directly from /usr/lib
> (along
> >> with configurations / logs / work / etc.)
> >>
> >>
> >> Ilya Kasnacheev wrote
> >> > We are building from binary package and not from sources. If it is
> used
> >> by
> >> > internal RPM building this is tolerable, but any distro or repository
> >> will
> >> > want to build from source.
> >>
> >> It's not an ordinary task to create "100% honest" package, so I guess we
> >> definitely won't make to 2.4 release. So I purpose include in the
> nearest
> >> release our package built from binary archive and do not supply sources
> >> package (as it is currently done in apache.org/dist for cassandra /
> hadoop
> >> or alike). And later design package build procedure, which includes
> getting
> >> sources from sources distribution, or even from Apache Ignite Git
> >> repository
> >> tag.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ilya Kasnacheev wrote
> >> > spec contains version (2.4.0) - will be needed to be changed for every
> >> > release. I'm not sure if it's possible to extract.
> >>
> >> Release procedure on TC is already has some task for project version
> >> update,
> >> so I guess it is not so difficult to update it accordingly (as it is
> >> currently done for C++ / .Net internal versions).
> >>
> >>
> >> Ilya Kasnacheev wrote
> >> > Package description may be improved. service description lacks '-' in
> "In
> >> > Memory".
> >>
> >> Fixed.
> >>
> >>
> >> So the only question to discuss (according Iliya's review) is whether to
> >> supply package with default-config.xml that has Multicast Discovery
> turned
> >> on or not?
> >>
> >> Also I'll appreciate any other comments concerning current package
> design.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sent from: http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/
> >>
>

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